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Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
Hi, This is my first post here, I got the moxf with 1gb flash board
I want to know if there is a user scale function in micro tuning page
I found only a pre programmed scales with the transpose option (a trick)
Regards |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
Welcome to the forum. It appears that the Micro Tuning scales are limited to the preset Settings listed on page 30 of the MOXF Reference Manual. The ability to create a User scale is one of the features of the XS/XF that apparently didn’t make it into the MOX/MOXF. |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
Thanks 5pinDIN for replying I tried also within Cubase 7 micro tuning plugin, but didn’t hear Any changes. Any other solution ? (Without Apple application) Regards. |
meatballfulton
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Joined 01-25-2005 status: Guru |
Kelfar makes products for microtunings, esp. “Arabic” scales. The Motifator shop used to carry their hardware, I know they supported the ES and some Korg instruments as well. I am not sure if they have support for more recent Yamaha gear, take a look for yourself. |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
Thanks meatballfulton for replying,
I’m aware of theses products,
Regards |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
I tried the Motif XF editor just in case this could send a real time micro tuning information, but it seems this version is blocked on Motif XF engine Now my question is: Is there a way to micro tune the Moxf in real time or not (via cubase Sysx or even with the YAMAHA scale tuner application ? ) Regards. |
MeMyselfAndI64
Total Posts: 201
Joined 11-12-2013 status: Enthusiast |
I may misunderstand, but if you use Cubase and setup an miditrack. with MOXF as Midi IN and MOXF as midi OUT.
turn Off internal mode on the MOXF
Now if you use an Micro tuner midi plugin on the track it should work. I do this with my Integra 7 even that it has micro tuning it,s easier to set up in Cubase for recording:) hope that helps |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
I didn’t find the internal mode ON/OFF but I think it’s the same if you just create a Midi track in Cubase with some events I do this with the Midi plugin but the MOXF don’t reply for any tune changes. Any clue ? |
5pinDIN
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For synths that don’t incorporate User scalable microtuning, it can still be accomplished as long as pitch bend can be received on all MIDI channels.
For example, see MicroTuner:
Of course, such an approach can add many PB messages to the MIDI data stream, which eventually could result in MIDI “clog” if added to lots of other data. |
5pinDIN
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For Local Control on/off, see page 148 of the MOXF Reference Manual. |
MeMyselfAndI64
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Joined 11-12-2013 status: Enthusiast |
The right term is LocalCtrl (Local Control) ON/OFF and is in utility mode in MIDI settings.
I don`t know why it does not work when you make events in cubase!
EDIT: Sorry did not see the other answers:) |
5pinDIN
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No problem - the more people say the same thing, the more likely it will be seen and believed. Â Â :-) |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
The transpose function within cubase respond with no problem
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Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
Thanks for trying to help, The solution is to change the microtune in real time or even with automated midi messages If this is not possible (Which I still waiting the official confirmation from YAMAHA) I’ll have to say that this keyboard is not targeted to the oriental music. |
5pinDIN
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Even if a synth doesn’t have built-in alternative tuning capability (preset or user scalable), as long as it can properly respond to pitch bend messages, it can be microtuned in real time. The software has to examine each note-on event, and then add a PB message that corresponds to the amount of scaling necessary for that note. Accuracy and consistency can be issues with this approach. A Motif XF is probably a better choice for your needs. |
Laurance
Total Posts: 12
Joined 11-11-2013 status: Regular |
Do you know if the scale tuner (Apple application) works or not
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