I am trying to create my 1st meaningful “performance” by putting together 2 voices - mapped to 2 different parts of the keyboard. Both voices are stock factory voices - and the one voice has an arp associated with it. I notice that my newly created performance has the one voice with the arp sounding cheezy and “thin” sounding compared to the factory voice (when played in voice mode). I assume this is an effects issue. There is a delay effect in the common area and it is turned on - but the resulting sound isn’t nearly as full or lush as when listening to the same voice in voice mode.

What are the effect limitations when creating a performance? Is there a way to copy the effects from a Voice into a Performance? By that I mean an “import” effects option within some menu somewhere? Or do I just write down effect settings from the “voice” mode ... and try and duplicate them in the “performance” mode.

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What are the effect limitations when creating a performance?

In VOICE mode, watch Voice has 2 INSERTION EFFECTs programmed as a part of the Voice. It also has a Reverb Send, and a Chorus Send… These two processors are considered the SYSTEM EFFECTS. Additionally each Voice can use the Master Effect and Master EQ.

When you place a Voice into a PART of a PERFORMANCE, it can and does automatically recall its two INSERTION EFFECTS, but now just like a single musician joining a band, the SYSTEM EFFECTS, the MASTER EFFECT and the MASTER EQ are shared by all the members of the band.

The SYSTEM Effects (Reverb and Chorus) are shared, you understand this if you have ever used a mixer… Each channel of the mixer (represents a different member of the band) has an AUX SEND knob that feeds the system’s Reverb Effect, and another AUX SEND that feeds the Time Delay or Chorus processor.

All the members go to the master effect and EQ (by the way each PART has an EQ of its own on the mixer)

So just like an individual musician, while you can take your own personal stomp boxes and Wah pedal - a Voice can bring along it’s 2 insert effects.

By when you get to the gig, you share the Reverb and Chorus types with the band via the mixer. Also the mixer output is sent to a Master Effect and EQ before the outputs.

Is there a way to copy the effects from a Voice into a Performance?

yes. But you realize that if you copy the System Effects of one of the Voices they are the System effects that become available (via the ‘aux sends’) for the entire group (Performance).

By that I mean an “import” effects option within some menu somewhere?

Again the INSERT EFFECTS, which are programmed as part of the Voice, and can be real time controlled by your physical controllers, are automatically “imported” to the Performance. By default the INSERT EFFECT SWITCH is set to ON for all four PARTs. Insert effects belong to the individual musician… Like a guitars distortion and Wah pedal, or the B3’s Rotary Speaker and Overdrive, like the Piano’s Damper Resonance, etc,etc,.

It is the SYSTEM EFFECTS that you need to COPY. System Effects are those that recreate the outside environment… room acoustic, time delays… They are not personal to the individual - room acoustics are shared by all the musicians in the room.  And then you need to set the ‘SEND’ amount for each PART, same as you would on the channel of the band’s Mixer. Make sense?

Or do I just write down effect settings from the “voice” mode ... and try and duplicate them in the “performance” mode.

You could do that, but only if you didn’t know what was going on, I’m not against it if you take that time, to write them down, do so to learn/study what the original programmer did.

Obviously you like it if you think it is worth copying. But mostly I encourage users to have your own opinion about how to setup the System Effects. If you want to Copy the Reverb and Chorus TYPEs from a Voice to the PERFORMANCE… Please see this....

Page 156 S90 ES Owner’s Manual

Press JOB
Press F3 COPY
Set the first TYPE (source) to the PART containing the Voice whose System Effects you want to make available for the Performance.
Set the second TYPE (destination) to EFFECT, mark the REV and CHO boxes
Press ENTER to execute

You will still need to subjectively set the SEND amounts for each Part. Set the Send amount to taste.

If you cannot decide for yourself, this is the one setting you can write down… The SEND amounts to the Reverb, and Chorus within the Voice you are copying.

Hope that helps.