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benj00
Total Posts: 113
Joined 06-03-2011 status: Pro |
Hey there, Just a quick heads up that the knobs of the MOX marked 1-8 for controlling voice parameters, zone functions, etc actually pop off fairly easily. I had one come off while putting it in my gig bag, and luckily saw it on the floor as I was packing up. Since the stock power supply is also kinda chintzy, I have been wanting to have a backup, so I thought it would to be a good idea to order some spare knobs as well. I called Yamaha and the power supply (PA-150) is $39.99 and the knobs are $2.10each. (I ordered 8) Anybody have a good recommendation for a good soft shell case for the MOX6? I have an older yamaha generic gig bag that fits pretty well but doesn’t have much padding.
Thanks!
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Aulis
Total Posts: 27
Joined 01-28-2011 status: Regular |
So, it’s not only on the Kronos where the knobs are falling off then ;)
All the best
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saxmanjack
Total Posts: 56
Joined 08-25-2011 status: Experienced |
If they’re that loose, couldn’t you try putting a dab of caulk or lock-tite on the shafts? |
benj00
Total Posts: 113
Joined 06-03-2011 status: Pro |
Well, that would be a good fix except for the fact that that would make it almost impossible to remove them without damaging the shaft they are attached to, which you would need to do if you ever need to fix a busted key or do any internal repairs. (The knobs have to be removed in order to open up the keyboard) Ben |
phloid
Total Posts: 126
Joined 06-22-2011 status: Pro |
That thin wire-like cord is questionable as is the loosely mounted input jack. Good luck getting the jack repaired when it breaks. |
saxmanjack
Total Posts: 56
Joined 08-25-2011 status: Experienced |
Right, it would have to be a compound that would increase friction without actually bonding to the plastic… |
benj00
Total Posts: 113
Joined 06-03-2011 status: Pro |
Yes, Regarding the jack, those are my thoughts exactly, would much rather have a standard three prong jack, so much sturdier. Its sad that spending $1200 doesn’t allow for good build quality all around. As far as the knobs go, I am guessing the same principle applies. There are ways to make “pots” stick (stay in place) better and the budget probably just wasn’t there for the MOX. The sounds are great, the action is good, and the user interface is nice once you get into it, but clearly Yamaha was trying to save money and reduce the overall weight.
My two cents,
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rogs
Total Posts: 121
Joined 07-16-2011 status: Pro |
Silicon rubber sealant perhaps? ---(the good stuff, not the bathroom rubbish!) |
FifthElement
Total Posts: 19
Joined 08-30-2011 status: Regular |
Yep, some sacrifices had to be made to get to that price and weight (MOX8 particularly) but I for one am very pleased they did. The lightweight plastic also scratches and marks very easily but I can live with that to gig with the lightest, best sounding, best action 88 weighted workstation I have ever had! |
Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Micro-fiber. Get one of those micro fiber cloths - removes the scratch marks intantly - works like magic (no spray or liquid necessary) - if the microfiber cloth was damp a week ago, that is enough moisture. Removes those marks like magic. |
saxmanjack
Total Posts: 56
Joined 08-25-2011 status: Experienced |
The knobs aren’t really an issue - they’re not going to just “fall off” without being pulled or snagged. The case surface seems to be textured kinda like extra-fine sandpaper; something rubbing against it will transfer a mark or “scratch”, but these easily rub out. DC input jack isn’t any more “loose” than on other devices I’ve used for decades without any problems… |
bilboben
Total Posts: 24
Joined 05-21-2011 status: Regular |
I have found this bag really good. The first review is mine. I am in the U K.
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phloid
Total Posts: 126
Joined 06-22-2011 status: Pro |
The jack is flimsy so it looks like you must buy flimsy devices. ...and decades? Have you carted these devices around setting them up and taking them down multiple times over the decades? I am having a hard time believing your claim. Can you name these other devices? Some people here will have knowledge of them so it can only serve to add credibility to your claim. The knobs already came off of the OPs MOX. |
phloid
Total Posts: 126
Joined 06-22-2011 status: Pro |
There is a reason the light weight is such a big deal to people. This is supposed to be a musician’s instrument that gets toted around for performances. How long can anything last when it is as fragile as an egg? Eggs are packaged in cartons. A gigbag is asking for trouble. Invest the money you saved that should have gone into a durable product by purchasing a hard shell case. You will forget how much it cost soon enough but you will suffer longer if you badly damage your instrument. |
saxmanjack
Total Posts: 56
Joined 08-25-2011 status: Experienced |
What’s your specific complaint with the DC input jack? Took a closer look at mine - there’s nothing “flimsy” or “loose” about it. Sure, it can be moved slightly side-to-side when plugged in - nothing wrong with having some flex designed into such a connection. ...and did you notice there is a ‘prong’ molded into the casing just above the jack to secure the wire to, if you’re concerned about it being accidentally pulled out? A decent gig bag would be perfectly adequate protection for toting a MOX6. IMO, heavier keyboards are better off in a hard shell case - a 30+ lb unit is going to hit much harder if knocked or dropped than a 15 lb one. This MOX does not appear to be any less of a “durable product” than the Korg Poly 800II I owned and used/abused for 25 years without any breakage/failure. If you want a keyboard that is built like a tank and has a 3-prong AC power plug, there are still some discontinued Kurzweil PC361’s available for half-price. But be prepared to lug around 30+ pounds, and all those reports of reliability issues and sudden total failure cannot be ignored… |
benj00
Total Posts: 113
Joined 06-03-2011 status: Pro |
Hmmm, As far as the knobs go, they do seem to slide off a little easier than other keyboards I’ve had. I would settle for the two prong jack that the nords have, seems sturdier all around. My concern with the stock jack is that someone (fellow bandmate, me, etc) will step on the cord and cause the jack to become loose, as there is some play in the jack, when the cord is plugged in. When you plug in the two prong jack, it has a more snug fit and there is more surface area to absorb a good tug on the cable. I did have a similar problem happen before with a sound module I had, years ago, that had a similar style dc jack. I think it was the kurzweil micro piano or something similar. Ben |