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wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
I had a ES7 and gave it away.
Now I have the XF7 and I am not so happy.
I like to jump around on the presets and its arps.
Are your XF’s same way or is my instrument defective ?
Thank you very much for help
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Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Welcome to the Forums!
Please don’t look in Performance mode!!!!
And please don’t discover Direct Performance Record.... It’s an even bigger “waste of time”
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wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
Thank you very much for that fast respond.
Hello to the Forum :-)
Probably we have different interests of Motif use.
What I never do:
Now I found out, there are many Voice Presets with full arpeggio assignment.
The perform mode is nothing for me.
What also is a even more blame of Yamaha, that is the optional Firewire board.
The FW board is only useful together with Yamaha Computer Interfaces.
Or am I complete wrong ?
Sorry for making so much bad noise here ;-)
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Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Yep, well not completely, just mostly, completely wrong. But on things you can have opinions about, you are, of course, welcome to them. Performance maybe “nothing for you” I don’t really care, I was only pointing out that if you want to hear Voices assigned with Arpeggios (you did say something about that) go to Performance mode. In your world they should probably be associated with the Voice only in Voice mode - in Yamaha design concept you get to hear them in context of an ensemble.
Voices are categorized by instrument
If you want, for example, to hear an acoustic guitar playing strumming chords, in your head this should only happen solo, the guitar by itself. Yamaha choose to place them in a musical context, with other instruments. What should the individual Voice play… In a Performance it can be surrounded by an ensemble that addresses an genre of music.
Hopefully, as you explore your instrument a bit more you will see that many of your first impressions were mostly wrong, if not completely… If you only like the guitar and its currently assigned five arpeggios, just use that. The idea was to make the instrument useful for a wide audience. An Arp can be assigned pretty much to any Voice. A musician who is called on to write ‘music for hire’ for example, can make extensive use of the 7891 Arpeggios. Maybe they need and authentic sounding Bossa Nova guitars strumming, or a Nile Rodgers-type funk strumming riff, or they need something outside their comfort zone completely. This is where context can help. Context is the only reason to have the arpeggios in Performance. Some people look (or hear) Performances and miss this point entirely (IMHO, this is what you’ve done thus far) and don’t realize everything about the Performances is customizable… They are suggestions in context. To dismiss them offhand is common… Doesn’t make it right, and certainly doesn’t make smart. The “in context” concept is found throughout the instrument. Of course, you are free to use it any way you desire, but we are only suggesting that such strong opinions can cause you to miss some things that might actually be useful for you. I have no comment on your assessment of the FW interface, from your comments (which speak for themselves on this), you don’t even know what it is about. And obviously have never used it. Which makes the whole “crappy toy” thing frankly disturbing ... You really think so?
Please don’t look on the back of your XF, you might find an included digital output…
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wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
Thank you very much for the big support works.
You say, Performances are categorized…
Yes I know there is this SPDIF Out.
I will work around in Perform mode as you mentioned, lets give a try :-)
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wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
Here two pics of performance mode Image Attachments
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Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
No. I mean, the Performances are categorized. There are 512 Performances each one is set in a Category, mostly by genre or its use (like splits/layers)
Press [PERFORM]
Press [VOICE]
Again, the Performances in memory are all in the USER area of the instrument - and are only there to show off the thousands of arpeggio Phrases in some kind if context. This is what we have been trying to tell you. A list if 7891 Arpeggios can be very daunting. When looking for some inspiration the arp phrases can be recalled within the “context” of some music ensemble. You do not have to use the ensemble, you simply use it to audition the type of phrase you are looking for… They are totally customizable. Say you’re called on to write a country song and need a particular guitar picking or strumming part. Rather than starting your search for a guitar Voice in Voice mode that has the arp already assigned… You could opt to search for a Performance in the country subcategory that might have a basic ensemble that would help find (picture in your mind’s ear) the appropriate guitar picking phrase… The basic context can simply help you “hear” what you need. The arps are extremely flexible via two pages of parameters that will control how they behave and when the phrases play. No one is suggesting you use the rest of the ensemble for any thing you may do, it is simply available as context. Plugging in new arp Phrases and auditioning them voicing the chords of your composition is all apart of this “selection” process. Each musician explores and finds a different way to use the plethora of content provided in the instrument. When you finish programming your own custom Performance, you can select a CATEGORY and SUB CATEGORY so it can be organized and found quickly. The idea is build your own custom library of Performances… Name, categorize and store them to the internal Performance locations. |
wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
here pic nr 2.
thank you :-) Image Attachments
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wallaby73
Total Posts: 6
Joined 01-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
No ideas ?
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stoneb3
Total Posts: 851
Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
You have initialized your user banks. Perform a factory reset, or reload the data from a previously saved All File, if you made one. I’d update the OS as well. Stone |