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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 10:53 AM
The Funk Master
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Hello everyone.

I would like to know if there is a place or someone that knows the note range of different brass and string intruments, as it would be applied to the keyboard.

Say for instance, a trumpet, the note range of that trumpet, as I would play it on a keyboard, so that I won’t go below or above the range of that instrument, in order to acheive a more realistic sound, that the musician of that instrument could replay in real life.

A while back, I was given such a chart by one of our old members “Saxman” but I’ve since lost that page.

TIA

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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 11:32 AM
Wellie
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Have you tried doing a search in the forum? This is a question which does come up from time to time.

Second, have you done a google search? I did a very quick search on instrument ranges and this came up as one of the images.


Cheers

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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 12:15 PM
The Funk Master
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Thanks Mr. Dave, I did not do any searches, only because I could not come up with an exact search reference.
I’ll keep trying.

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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 01:28 PM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Jerry, don’t you have the XS version of Complete Orchestra? The
instrument voices in that library are limited to the actual range of the
instruments.

You can also find the ranges of instruments at Wikipedia. For instance, just type in “range of the trumpet” in Google or Yahoo search, a list of
references will come up, and among them will be Wikipedia pages.

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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 07:23 PM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

HEY THAT’S IT MR. DAVE, THANKS BROTHER.

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Posted on: November 15, 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

[url=http://musicarrangers.com/instruments/]http://musicarrangers.com/instruments/ [/url]

;JOOP!

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Posted on: November 16, 2008 @ 04:50 AM
The Funk Master
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Re: Instrument ranges?

LOL hey brother Joop, that’s the reference I had a long time ago,,,thank you Sir.

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Posted on: November 16, 2008 @ 05:21 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

[DavePolich] The instrument voices in that library are limited to the actual range of the instruments.

All range charts need to be taken cum grano salis, with a grain of salt. The upper range of brass instruments depends on the lips of the particular player (the condition of which may vary from day to day), and, theoretically, unfretted string instruments have no upper limit. On the other hand, just because a note falls in the chart range for an instrument doesn’t make its use idiomatic in all circumstances. High notes for brass instruments, for example, generally need to be lead up to and can’t easily be played softly (basically, past a certain point, the higher, the louder).

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Posted on: November 16, 2008 @ 06:23 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Hey that’s a great point, and makes a lot of sense to me.
THerefore I shall keep that in mind, while I’m composing with said instruments.
I love it when you brothers get into teaching mode, there’s a lot to be learned from you guys....THANKS !!!

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Posted on: November 17, 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

The best teachers are the players themselves, confronted in person, instrument in hand, and as a rule they’re generally flattered to be quizzed. Their instruments are their favorite subjects. Don’t hesitate to avail yourself of whatever opportunities may arise.  It’s also a good idea to get hold of an orchestration book (most of which are also--and foremost--instrumentation books). I recommend especially Walter Piston’s Orchestration.

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Posted on: November 17, 2008 @ 01:30 PM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Scotch makes a good point here. 

If you’re striving for realism, performers are the single-most valuable resource.

When I was writing a piece that featured guitar, I approached the guitarist in a combo in which I play, to ask questions like:

“How much can you bend up by tensioning the string?  How much can you bend down by stressing the neck, or using the tremolo?  How long does the compressor pedal allow a sustain to ring?  Do nylon versus metallic strings allow you play differently, or do you choose the material to suit the style?”

Stuff like that… They like that.  /forums/images/icons/smile.gif alt= It confuses drummers, though… When I wrote a drum line for a tune, I asked the drummer for his opinion.  It came back as “It can’t be done.  You don’t have enough hands to beat all that stuff.” When I told him “I have more than one drummer,” he was miffed… /forums/images/icons/wink.gif alt=


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Posted on: November 18, 2008 @ 03:30 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Yeah, I know a sax player, and have studied his style a bit.
Translating all this information into playing the XS is what I’m doing these days.
I not only want it to sound good, but have a bit of realisum aout the music.

I actually watched a jazz program on PBS yesterday, and learned a few things from them cats.
I can apply such things in my RnB, Funk, and Hip Hop music.

Thanks again fellas

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Posted on: November 19, 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

[TonyPhillips] It confuses drummers, though…

Ah, drummers. Some drummers don’t read at all; other drummers feel left out if everyone gets handed a part but them. Orchestral percussion parts tend to be less dense than (largely improvised) rock and jazz drum parts, which can make precisely transcribed or realistically composed rock and jazz parts forbidding on the page even for experienced percussionists--especially if the parts are scribbly, so to speak (write legibly!).

This has been steadily changing for some time, however, and I’m of the opinion drummers should be nudged to join the ranks of fully reading instrumentalists. But don’t let’s play tricks on them. Tell them in advance if two drummers are involved--or, better, write two clearly distinguishable parts, one for each drummer. Make parts as idiomatic as possible based on your existing knowledge before confronting drummers (or any instrumentalists, for that matter).

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Posted on: November 20, 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Yep, Scotch, you’re right on that…

When I said “When I wrote a drum line for a tune, I asked the drummer for his opinion,” I should have been more clear.

I didn’t present said drummer with a written rhythm chart; this was a MOTIF’d rhythm that he was listening to.

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Posted on: November 20, 2008 @ 11:22 AM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Tony & Scotch....
I work solo now,but the last drummer I worked with actually wrote charts for himself when we worked on new tunes. We roomed together and he would study them and “work them out” in the room. Now after he got the tune down,just like the rest of us, he would then make “adjustments” based on the spirit of the tune.

He even gave me copies of his charts to keep with the rest of the arrangements just in case he got sick or couldn’t be at a gig for whatever reason. Fortunately, there were only a few times where he couldn’t show up because none of the replacements, though competent drummers,didn’t or couldn’t follow the charts.

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Posted on: November 23, 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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Re: Instrument ranges?

Sure, try this one........

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