Hello everyone.
I recently bought an MM6 and have one big problem. When playing back MIDI recorded in Cubase The mm6 only plays back GM sounds, not the “good” sounds I saved in my performances on the mm6. This really sucks.

My question is, does the MX series have the same limitations? Can you play back from a midi recording all the sounds that you can play from the keyboard? I have the opportunity to buy a used MX61 tomorrow, so if anyone knows about this I would be grateful for quick answer.
Yours truly,
Bjarne
Sweden

I don’t own an MM6 or MM8, so I can’t speak from personal experience. However, while the MM models have some limitations, I believe that a MIDI file recorded in and played back via Cubase should be able to access any of the MM’s Voices, not just the GM ones.

I searched Motifator a bit, and found the following threads, which seem relevant to your issue.

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/449393/
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/450955/
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/452683/

I hope they prove helpful.

Bjarne Bertelsen - 17 August 2019 02:07 PM

Hello everyone.
I recently bought an MM6 and have one big problem. When playing back MIDI recorded in Cubase The mm6 only plays back GM sounds, not the “good” sounds I saved in my performances on the mm6. This really sucks.

My question is, does the MX series have the same limitations? Can you play back from a midi recording all the sounds that you can play from the keyboard? I have the opportunity to buy a used MX61 tomorrow, so if anyone knows about this I would be grateful for quick answer.
Yours truly,
Bjarne

What instrument did you record in Cubase?  Was it the MM6, a VSTi, some other synth?

If the recorded instrument was the MM6,
Did you record the music on the MM6 and then load the mid file into Cubase?  or where you recording into Cubase as you were playing?

What version of Cubase are you using?  The version of Cubase that originally came with the MM6?

I have an MM8 I control it all the time from my QY100, and Motif, via live control, and mid files.  I’ve never had a problem, getting to the original MM8 sounds.

A big thank you to all of you for helping. The problems are mostly solved now. The solution was to send the performance selections from the MM6 and record them in cubase. That way the right msb/lsb data are recorded. And the MIDI channel on the track set to send on “any” when playing back.

The same thing with the “patch” changes. Didn,t work when sending them from cubase. That is, if I send from a MIDI track, not an instrument track.

On an instrument track it didn’t work at first when I selected patches from the patch list in the cubase inspector (MIDI device Yamaha MM, external instrument). Now it mysteriously works, I don’t know why. Choosing a “performance” doesn’t seem to be possible, though.

The only remaining problem is that the effects are not the same as when playing from the keyboard (local on, and without going through a midi or instrument track). But that is no major issue, perhaps I will find out later.

Again, thank you all!

I’m glad you’ve resolved most of the problems you’ve experienced with the MM.

 

Bjarne Bertelsen - 19 August 2019 07:55 AM

The only remaining problem is that the effects are not the same as when playing from the keyboard (local on, and without going through a midi or instrument track). But that is no major issue, perhaps I will find out later.

One of the limitations of the MM models is that only a single Insertion Effect is available. A workaround for that issue is to render to audio, track-by-track. See
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/archive/viewthread/386387/

The MX is also somewhat limited in that respect in comparison to other recent Motif models. It has four single Insert Effects, while the Motif XS, XF, and the MOXF each have eight dual Insert Effects.

As to the MX capabilities…
See http://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/getting_started_with_the_yamaha_mx49_and_mx61

MX Owner’s Manual:
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/6/892946/mx49mx61mx88_en_om_e0.pdf

MX Reference Manual:
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/0/892960/mx49mx61mx88_en_rm_b0.pdf

If you’re still thinking of upgrading, but have a limited budget, rather than an MX you might perhaps consider getting a used MOXF.

EDIT: I’ve noticed “elsewhere” that you’ve already purchased an MX61. Limitations aside, you’ll hopefully enjoy it.