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Posted on: August 12, 2019 @ 04:58 PM
maxweb
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Hi everyone,
I noticed this “strange behaviour “ of sustain pedal:
Using a pad sound or a strings sound, for example. Press and release the keyboard. While you still ear the sound, press the sustain pedal. And the sound is under effect of sustain. Is like the sustain catch the effect of the sound. Is it normal?

In this period I’m having few problems with sustain pedal. Random it start, even if I don’t touch the pedal. I change pedal, clean the contacts, but the problem is still there! Can this two things be related?

thanks for reply.

Max
Motif XF

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Posted on: August 12, 2019 @ 05:47 PM
5pinDIN
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maxweb - 12 August 2019 04:58 PM

Hi everyone,
I noticed this “strange behaviour “ of sustain pedal:
Using a pad sound or a strings sound, for example. Press and release the keyboard. While you still ear the sound, press the sustain pedal. And the sound is under effect of sustain. Is like the sustain catch the effect of the sound. Is it normal?

Yes, that’s normal behavior. See:
https://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/learning_about_envelopes_motif_xs_xf_and_mox

 

maxweb -

In this period I’m having few problems with sustain pedal. Random it start, even if I don’t touch the pedal. I change pedal, clean the contacts, but the problem is still there! [...]

Does sustain randomly start if the pedal isn’t plugged in?

Is it a Yamaha pedal, and if so, which one - FC3, FC4, or FC5?

Is the Utility mode “Sustain Pedal” setting correct for the type of pedal? See pages 219-220 of the XF Reference Manual.

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Posted on: August 12, 2019 @ 06:44 PM
maxweb
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Yes, that’s normal behavior. See:
https://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/learning_about_envelopes_motif_xs_xf_and_mox

Good to know, thanks. I have to study.
 

maxweb -

In this period I’m having few problems with sustain pedal. Random it start, even if I don’t touch the pedal. I change pedal, clean the contacts, but the problem is still there! [...]

Does sustain randomly start if the pedal isn’t plugged in?

Is it a Yamaha pedal, and if so, which one - FC3, FC4, or FC5?

Is the Utility mode “Sustain Pedal” setting correct for the type of pedal? See pages 219-220 of the XF Reference Manual.

I never try to use motif with no pedal, I don’t know.

I use a boss fs 5u

So it’s better to use FC5 in setting of sustain right?

Many thanks for answer!

Max.

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Posted on: August 13, 2019 @ 03:26 AM
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I suggest that you unplug the sustain pedal for a while and determine if the random sustain still occurs - there may be a problem in the XF.

The BOSS FS-5U footswitch does require that the “Sustain Pedal” setting be “FC4/5”. Of course, it’s also necessary that the pedal’s polarity switch be in the proper position for use with a Motif.

 

maxweb - 12 August 2019 06:44 PM

Many thanks for answer!

Max.

You’re welcome!

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Posted on: August 13, 2019 @ 06:25 AM
maxweb
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Thanks, I’ll test the “new “.settings.

Max

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Posted on: August 13, 2019 @ 03:49 PM
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Your cable from the pedal to the Motif might be the problem. It was on my M-Audio sustain pedal I was using a few years ago. The wires had come away from the inside of the pedal and so it would randomly turn on and off. See my thread at the time here: http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/477373/

That’s worth checking out for sure. Do you have another pedal you can try with the Motif?

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Posted on: August 14, 2019 @ 08:11 AM
maxweb
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Thanks for answer, I change several cables, but the problem was still there. At the momentous I’m testing the solution of 5pinDIN.
I’ll post what’s happening in next days.

Max

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