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jerrydpi
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Hi guys/dolls :) My Topic Title says it all, and if so, how do I do it? |
jerrydpi
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PS Or can a MOXF Drum Kit Voice be triggered by ANY Electronic Drum Kit that has a usb out? |
zpink
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You won’t be able to use the USB directly, the MoXF isn’t a USB host.
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5pinDIN
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Most Roland modules have standard 5-pin MIDI out.
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If you must use an electronic kit having only USB output, then a computer or other device would have to act as host between the kit and the MOXF. |
jerrydpi
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There is no MIDI Port on my Roland Kit, only usb, so what do I need to connect it to my MOXF? I do have a MacBook Pro, but it doesn’t have MIDI in/outs. |
jerrydpi
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Hi 5pinDIN :) It’s been a while since we talked, and I hope all is well with you! I do have a MacBook Pro, but if it won’t solve the problem, what device do I need? It’s nice to hear from you again! Jerry |
5pinDIN
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As well as can be expected at my age. Â :-)
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Presuming that the correct driver for the MOXF (and Roland, if needed) is installed on the Mac, there needs to be an app running (such as a DAW) that sees both the Roland and the MOXF. Then the Roland MIDI data output has to be routed to the MOXF input (Port 1, the tone generator) via the app.
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Otherwise, you’d need a USB MIDI Host such as the Kenton or iConnectivity units. https://www.kentonuk.com/products/items/utilities/usb-host.shtml I suggest verifying with the manufacturers that the particular Roland kit you have is compatible (USB Class-compliant). |
jerrydpi
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Hey, there’s not ONE Motifator Member who hasn’t gotten a day older just like you and me have :) Regardless, I looked at the Kenton device, and if one wants to connect a USB keyboard to MIDI gear without a computer, it will work great. But let me be more clear on what I want to do, and I apologize if I wasn’t clear enough :)
I have:
But I LOVE the drums on the MOXF, and I record them from the MOXF Audio Outputs into the Twin Duo’s Audio Inputs. I play the MOXF Drums by my fingers, and I’m pretty happy with the results, but as I am a drummer, and I record the software drums from the Roland Kit, I said to myself: “Myself, it sure would be nice if I could take the usb cable that is coming from my Roland Kit’s Module, disconnect it from my MacBook Pro’s usb 3 in, plug it into an adapter that would be female usb in, have MIDI In and Out ports on the other side of said adapter, and then simply (uh-oh :) ) connect MIDI cables from the adapter to the MOXF”. So is this possible, and if so, I’ve found lots of adapters ranging from $15.00(me likey :) ) to over $300.00 (me don’t likey :) ). Please note that I welcome ANY input/advice on any adapter, hopefully one that’s not over $300.00 :) |
5pinDIN
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It seems I wasn’t sufficiently clear. Â :-) A USB MIDI Host will allow the MIDI output of a Class-compliant USB device to be connected to a 5-pin MIDI-In. The Roland TD-1KV seems to be Class-compliant. You would need to verify that. There are USB MIDI Hosts available other than the Kenton and iConnectivity ones. Some may be less expensive than models from those companies. If you find one for $15 that actually works, do let us know. |
zpink
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Not sure if this could be an issue or not if you go down the USB host route, on the Roland module, can you set which note the triggers play?
Or you can of course create your own kits on the MoXF, but I got the impression that you like the ones already there. ;-) |
5pinDIN
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As far as I know, MIDI note numbers sent by the Roland TD-1KV can be reprogrammed as needed.
This thread might be interesting and potentially helpful:
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jerrydpi
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From Roland:
Please forgive these questions :) 1) What is a USB MIDI Host (vs a USB MIDI Adapter)? 2) Once I purchase a USB MIDI Host, and once I change the MIDI note assignment of the Roland Pads, I should be ready to go? The reason I ask is because just as Sonny Corleone said in the Godfather, he didn’t want his brother coming out of that toilet with just his **** in his hands :) |
5pinDIN
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http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+usb+host Sorry, but I’m done with this topic. |
jerrydpi
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Thank you for your input, as well as being so helpful 5pinDIN :) Jerry |
jerrydpi
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This is what I found in regards to what a USB Host is: A device that can serve as a “master†USB device, to which other “client†peripherals can be attached, is referred to as a “USB host.†Computers are USB hosts by default. Some other devices can also serve as USB hosts or can be switched to a “USB host mode†that allows them to serve as a connection point for peripherals. An example is a tablet, which can be connected to a computer for transferring data, backup, etc., but that also can serve as a USB host to client peripherals. So if I have a MacBook Pro, is that not a USB Host, and if so, why hasn’t anyone said all I need is a MIDI Adapter that is usb on one end, and MIDI on the other. PLEASE understand that I’m not trying to be obtuse, I’m just not connecting the dots :) |
5pinDIN
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Apparently I lied, and I wasn’t quite done with the topic…
Nobody said that because…
Routing of the MIDI data might be done with virtual ports using the Mac IAC Driver - I suggest that you reread earlier posts in this thread, and follow links in them. Perhaps Mac users here or elsewhere will be able to fill in any missing pieces for you - as I said before, I’m not a “Mac Guy”. |