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Posted on: October 22, 2018 @ 12:04 PM
Venatt
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I have some 80’s libraries I bought here on Key fax when I had the Motif XS, then I later upload them to the XF and work perfectly. My question is if there is a way these 80’s libraries can be uploaded to the MoDX ?

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Posted on: October 23, 2018 @ 05:14 AM
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Although Motifator has apparently decided to not support the MODX (and I understand their position), since you purchased the libraries here and your question is related in part to Motifs, I’ll reply.

An X0A (or X3A) file can be loaded to the MODX. The MODX has no “Voice Mode” - Voices from the XS or XF will be converted in the MODX to Performances having a single Part.

XS/XF Performances can also be loaded to the MODX. Motif Songs/Patterns and Masters cannot.

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Posted on: October 23, 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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Thank you very much 5pinDIN

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Posted on: October 25, 2018 @ 07:55 AM
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Does that mean the MODX does not have a “song mode”?  I love what I’ve been reading about the MODX synth as a portable version of my beastie of a Motif XF8, but I would need the equivalent of song mode given how many layers, splits, and multiple sounds I use on a per-song basis.

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Posted on: October 25, 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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katsikas - 25 October 2018 07:55 AM

Does that mean the MODX does not have a “song mode”?  I love what I’ve been reading about the MODX synth as a portable version of my beastie of a Motif XF8, but I would need the equivalent of song mode given how many layers, splits, and multiple sounds I use on a per-song basis.

You folks are really trying to get me to support the Montage and MODX.  :-)

The MODX has a significantly different architecture than the Motif family. The modes you’re used to aren’t found in the MODX. It basically has, full time, what we’d call “Performance Mode”, but with 16 Parts instead of 4. Each Part is on a separate MIDI channel. Up to 8 of the 16 Parts can be simultaneously under keyboard control. Any of the 16 Parts can be individually selected for keyboard play.

If you would use the MODX by itself, you could probably set up Performances to suit your playing needs. However, since the MODX doesn’t allow MIDI Receive Channel assignment per Part (it’s fixed), using an external controller won’t allow access to the things you described.

You might want to download manuals from Yamaha to get a more detailed idea of the MODX operation.

By the way, the above also applies to the Montage.

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Posted on: October 26, 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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I love the MoDX from what I hear and see of it.  I’ll probably get one if for no other reason than it is light, yet powerful.  I kind of wished that they would have retained the Master Mode.  It was very useful in live situations.

The MoDX seems to be to good to pass up, especially at the price.

Just my opinion,

Kenny

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Posted on: October 28, 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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So, for clarity, it does not seem as though there is an easy way to take “song mode files” from my MotifXF8 (which is how I organize my sounds for live performance) and “import” them into the MODX/Montage as “performances”.  Am I correct on this limitation in backward compatibility? 

Steve

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Posted on: October 28, 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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As far as I know (and I’m admittedly not expert on the Montage/MODX)…
Motif XF/MOXF Song/Pattern Mixings (which is what I presume you’re referring to as “song mode files") indeed can’t be directly imported, and would require that you rebuild them in the MODX.

You might want to contact Yamaha Support to verify that, in particular to determine if an OS update could have addressed that.

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Posted on: October 31, 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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KMKKEYS - 26 October 2018 10:59 AM

I love the MoDX from what I hear and see of it.  I’ll probably get one if for no other reason than it is light, yet powerful.  I kind of wished that they would have retained the Master Mode.  It was very useful in live situations.

The MoDX seems to be to good to pass up, especially at the price.

Just my opinion,

Kenny

I’m thinking the same. I’m actually thinking of selling my Roland FA-08 and replacing it with the MODX8 or the Montage 8.

Any reason you’d go for the MODX8 instead of the Montage 8? Price and weight obviously but any other reasons?

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Posted on: November 05, 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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I sold my Roland FA-06 to get the MODX7 and there is no comparison, in my opinion, about sound quality.  I did like the Roland sampling architecture and SD card.  The key feel was a little springier (though I never resonated with those slightly smaller keys).  I don’t think you’d miss the FA-08, but your mileage may vary.

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Posted on: November 06, 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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chrisking497 - 31 October 2018 06:15 PM
KMKKEYS - 26 October 2018 10:59 AM

I love the MoDX from what I hear and see of it.  I’ll probably get one if for no other reason than it is light, yet powerful.  I kind of wished that they would have retained the Master Mode.  It was very useful in live situations.

The MoDX seems to be to good to pass up, especially at the price.

Just my opinion,

Kenny

I’m thinking the same. I’m actually thinking of selling my Roland FA-08 and replacing it with the MODX8 or the Montage 8.

Any reason you’d go for the MODX8 instead of the Montage 8? Price and weight obviously but any other reasons?

There are no reasons except price and weight. Perhaps one prefers the lower cost keybed feel? 

MODX has fewer features and ability (Examples:  1.0 Gb Flash vs 1.75 Gb, 4 sliders vs 8, removed patch select panel buttons array, no secondary aux audio out ... etc.) vs Montage but it is half the price and half the weight.  The basic internal engine is identical.  Some say the DACs (that turn digits into analog audio out) are better in Montage, i don’t know.

There is nothing intended to be “better” in MODX than Montage other than price and weight.  Yamaha de-featured it a bit so there still a reason for some to buy Montage.

OK - here’s the only other MODX advantage: key-for-key (e.g. 6 vs 6, 7 vs 7) the MODX is shorter than Montage as they moved PB and MW controllers from left of keys to above the keys.  Combined with reduced weight, this has alot of value if you travel with a board alot.  but some may hate the new location for usability.

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Posted on: November 12, 2018 @ 11:08 AM
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