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sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
Hi Everyone
1)As for FW connection....I hear we can use Apple adapter MD464 via thunderbolt connection....is that the way to do it or is there a better way??? 2)which is the better or logic way to connect XS8 & MR816 to Mac (Cubase) so that I can either play the XS8 on its own or with Cubase..... 3)please also help me which software to download so that I don’t forget any the help will be greatly appreciated and will save me tons of frustration
Thanks in advance
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mustbthemix
Total Posts: 964
Joined 01-02-2004 status: Guru |
Powerful setup you have, I’m sure the experts will be with you shortly to answer your questions and resolve any issues you might have. Congrats on your new purchase, have fun while making plenty of good music! Mix...... |
meatballfulton
Total Posts: 3022
Joined 01-25-2005 status: Guru |
This is the best way. You will need in addition to the Thunderbolt adapter a FW cable that has a FW400 connector at one end and FW800 at the other and a FW 400 cable.
The FW 400 cable connects the XS and MR, From either one connect the FW400/800 cable to the Tbolt adapter and then to the Mac. On the Mac go to Applications/Utility (shortcut: cmd-U) and open Audio/MIDI Setup. There you should create what is called an Aggregate Device. This makes the XS and MR appear as a single audio interface. In Cubase route the main stereo output to Main L&R;of the XS. That way any speakers or headphones connected to the XS will play the output of Cubase, but if the computer is turned off you can still play the XS normally. This is how I have my XF connected (I have a Focusrite interface rather than the MR).
Go here and download the following:
These are for the XS itself:
These are for the Mac:
Check the Steinberg site to see if there are any additional updates for the MR. Simply follow the installation instructions that come with each package. |
sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
Hi Meatballfulton
Mustbthemix....yes it seems to be a pwrful setup....maybe went over my head on this one...but I’m ok with giving it a shot. There’s a lot of controversy when it comes to PC or Mac making it hard for someone like me (with limited experience) to take such a decision. My previous PC hard drive apparently is fried (after 6 yrs)....Now I have to live with this new decision...lol Can’t wait to start making music again. |
sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
looks like all the software in the Mac were successful
the Yamaha FW Driver on the Mac reads
I have downloaded the software firmware 1.07 on the Mac
[F1] GENERAL
I also tried with a stick directly on the XS8
current version on the XS8 indicates firmware 1.60.1
What am I missing?? |
meatballfulton
Total Posts: 3022
Joined 01-25-2005 status: Guru |
I’m sure the IEEE firmware download has the full instructions on how to update. Is what you wrote above from the instructions? |
Mantra
Total Posts: 51
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Experienced |
Hey Sobluesy I have a similar setup but using an XF7 with the FW16E and a CSX816. On mine the Steinberg FW driver automatically does the device aggregation i.e. sees the two devices as one which is what it looks like yours is doing. So you’ll get like a 26in 20 out interface depending on how you configure the adat settings on the CSX. So its probably best to connect your speakers to outputs one and two on the CSX and check if your signal’s not coming out there. I think the DAW/OS signal goes there automatically. Then you also need to setup some routing for the CSX using its editor, the MREditor. In terms of what meatball is saying, I’ve got the audio outs of my motif running into the CSX but currently have the FW of the CSX disconnected and am therefore just using the CSX as a standalone mixer and can play the Motif without the computer being on and/or route the computer’s audio through it. Breaking it down might also help to understand whats going on. i.e. maybe just connect the motif by itself. On cubase you should then see 14ins and 6 outs. If you then connect the CSX and the digital is set to adat, you’ll see 30 ins and 22outs, but the first 16 ins & outs are the CSX and then after that are the motif. Then there’s some other strange that cubase does in the name of integration where it will terminate the MR Editor and take its place. I get lost at this point because I find the cubase routing and interface in general very confusing and prefer to use Logic or pro tools where the routing seems much clearer to me. That said, if you spend some time you can probably set up Cubase to address any of the ins and outs from both of the devices in whatever way you like.
Cheers
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5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
??? I haven’t previously said anything in this thread. Â :-) |
Mantra
Total Posts: 51
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Experienced |
My bad, for some reason i get you and meatball confused...have edited the post...sorry.. |
sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
hi guy
I read the instructions and connected the XS directly to the Mac by removing the MR from the loop
I do get a message that the Mac won’t let me do it
IEEE 1394 firmware updater can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer
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sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
thanks Mantra & Meatball
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sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
Regardless of what I do ....the Motif XS firmware still reads 1.60.1 Just to confirm .....the XS8 FW firmware was the windows version now I want to install the Mac version ...I do understand that I just update it to the Version 1.07-2 according to the instructions it’s still not happening |
Mantra
Total Posts: 51
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Experienced |
Hey Sobluesy Okay, thats basically the mac’s security. You have to go to the mac system preferences, which is a kind of a cog looking icon and click on security which is a house/safe icon. Then there is a lock there which you click on and you’ll then get asked for your user name and password. Then you can change the “allow apps downloaded from” setting to “anywhere” and this should allow the install to run. Then you should be all good. |
sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
Hey Mantra
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sobluesy
Total Posts: 15
Joined 11-25-2007 status: Regular |
in systems preference
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Mantra
Total Posts: 51
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Experienced |
Hi Sobluesy Theres two separate firmware’s here :- 1. The Firewire (IEEE 1394) firmware which is installed on the computer. You’ve got 1.07, but it appears you need 1.07-2, which is presumably the updater which is not running due to your mac’s security settings not allowing apps from unknown developers. 2. The Motif firmware - which is installed on the motif itself. From what I can see, you’ve got 1.60 here and that is the latest, so you should be all good. Good luck !! |