here’s the news guys The Montage is the new Motif .
Ok someone has finally said it .
And you know wha if you think about it , it all makes perfect since .

1st and foremost think about the Yamaha Motif XF and what Yamaha did with it nothing short of brilliant .

They thought it through so well that the Motif is still at the top of the synth food chain with flash firewire to DAW numerous iPad apps and much more .

In other words Yamaha are much smarter and wiser than we are , I mean this company knows how to make a synth last and develop for it . How many Kronoses have come out I think 3 .
Kronos is nice but I can’t get over that tiny tiny screen . Notice the Motif price never came down then they made it more valuable with the anniversary fully loaded package and this is the same Motif that has been out for years now .

So it’s so clear to me that The Montage is really the new Motif we just can’t see it yet but I bet the people at Yamaha know this very well .

They took some of the best features of the motif and put it on crack in the Montage and for all those bitchin about no full Motif type sequencer will soon learn what Yamaha wants you to do and thats to go straight to your computer which is really the professional way to go anyway .

I’m telling you a Montage with a laptop is a game changer .

My pre-order is placed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Montage is not the new Motif, it’s the Montage, the Motif XF little brother on Steroids.

Motif XF does way more than a Montage in terms of features and creativity and sound manipulation.

If you already own a Motif XF, it could be a step down on feature count.

The Montage is like Yamaha’s version of the Jupiter 80.

I think we’re forgetting that the Motif XF is still for sale and still a great workstation. You can get upgraded to fully loaded now for free. It might not be phased out for a while and why would Yamaha want to devalue the XF if it’s not another motif? Motif is the Motif and Montage is a new line of synth. Buy them both or wait for the Montage rack unit, problem solved.

davlippo7 - 25 January 2016 12:45 PM

[...] or wait for the Montage rack unit, problem solved.

Would a Montage rack unit be in the tradition of and successor to the Motif Rack XF?

That’s like 50% of zero is …

dsetto - 25 January 2016 04:46 PM

That’s like 50% of zero is …

I was wondering if/when someone would get my point.  :-)

kday - 25 January 2016 07:38 AM

Montage is not the new Motif, it’s the Montage, the Motif XF little brother on Steroids.

Motif XF does way more than a Montage in terms of features and creativity and sound manipulation.

If you already own a Motif XF, it could be a step down on feature count.

The Montage is like Yamaha’s version of the Jupiter 80.

Wrong , the Montage is already so far ahead you can’t see it in my humble opinion , Yamaha is smarter than me and you on this one they did plenty of reshearch .

Yamaha knows anybody who buys a synth in this price range probably is using a DAW so why wast time on a built in sequencer like on the Motif ?

The Jupiter 80 is great I have it but it’s no Montage but it does have a super knob feature .

This is the new workflow and way of doing things trust me the Montage is the new Motif .

Yamaha knows anybody who buys a synth in this price range probably is using a DAW so why wast time on a built in sequencer like on the Motif ?

Many of us do use a DAW ... and the sequencer. I use them for different purposes. When I am experimenting and trying to be creative, I use song and pattern modes. When I have a well thought-out project, I use the DAW. Often I will start with the sequencer and transition to the DAW. Others may use the sequencer differently, or not at all, but that’s how I use it.

In addition, if Yamaha is trying to get us to use a DAW in place of a built-in sequencer, why did they drop support for the DAW remote-control function? It would appear that Montage is not focused on music production at all, either with an on-board sequencer or with a DAW. Yes, you can use a DAW, but not as conveniently as you can with the Motif.

5pinDIN - 25 January 2016 06:48 PM

dsetto - 25 January 2016 04:46 PM

That’s like 50% of zero is …

I was wondering if/when someone would get my point.  :-)

I saw that, but I wondered about the F key not being that far from the S key… :-)

moxrox - 25 January 2016 08:14 PM

In addition, if Yamaha is trying to get us to use a DAW in place of a built-in sequencer, why did they drop support for the DAW remote-control function?

I really like the XF Remote capability, and I’m sorry that they dropped it.

I asked about this on yamahasynth.com, and Bad_Mister said that in their experience very few people were using it. Perhaps that’s why they dropped it.

Michael Trigoboff - 25 January 2016 10:47 PM

5pinDIN - 25 January 2016 06:48 PM

dsetto - 25 January 2016 04:46 PM

That’s like 50% of zero is …

I was wondering if/when someone would get my point.  :-)

I saw that, but I wondered about the F key not being that far from the S key… :-)

Not a typo, but perhaps too subtle.

Lets get real guys. Most people who need DAW
control from a hardware interface use a dedicated
DAW controller (there are many on the market now).
Yamaha’s research showed that DAW control
on the XF was not used by many customers.
So why put something into Montage that the
majority of users do not need.

Sampling..that is so far down the list of
desired features for most users that it really
is dead last in priority. Again, not a feature most
customers want, thats why it isnt in Montage.
But if u must have it, its on the Motif XF, so
why not just continue to use what you already
have.

I can guarantee you, the customers who will
buy Montage (and there will be many) are not
the customers who care about sampling, sequencing,
or remote DAW control.

DavePolich - 26 January 2016 01:35 AM

Sampling..that is so far down the list of
desired features for most users that it really
is dead last in priority. Again, not a feature most
customers want, thats why it isnt in Montage.
But if u must have it, its on the Motif XF, so
why not just continue to use what you already
have.

I can guarantee you, the customers who will
buy Montage (and there will be many) are not
the customers who care about sampling, sequencing,
or remote DAW control.

Mr. Dave Polich, I read in the other thread that you are a programmer for Yamaha. 

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/476640/#591109

DavePolich - 26 January 2016 01:25 AM

I have a Montage right here in my studio (because I’m
one of Yamaha’s programmers)..

Are you speaking on behalf of Yamaha as their representative with that statement that you made above that is quoted in large red print?

kb420 - 26 January 2016 01:58 AM

DavePolich - 26 January 2016 01:35 AM

Sampling..that is so far down the list of
desired features for most users that it really
is dead last in priority. Again, not a feature most
customers want, thats why it isnt in Montage.
But if u must have it, its on the Motif XF, so
why not just continue to use what you already
have.

I can guarantee you, the customers who will
buy Montage (and there will be many) are not
the customers who care about sampling, sequencing,
or remote DAW control.

Mr. Dave Polich, I read in the other thread that you are a programmer for Yamaha. 

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/476640/#591109

DavePolich - 26 January 2016 01:25 AM

I have a Montage right here in my studio (because I’m
one of Yamaha’s programmers)..

Are you speaking on behalf of Yamaha as their representative with that statement that you made above that is quoted in large red print?

I am not an employee of Yamaha, I do work
for them as an outside consultant.  I am not
a Yamaha representative and do not speak
for Yamaha.

I am familiar with their marketing research.
I’ve worked as a sound designer for Yamaha, Korg,
Dave Smith, Native Instfuments, Roland, and other
companies for over 25 years.

Hope that answers your questions,

Doesn’t Montage send it’s controller changes as midi messages? If so, why isn’t it possible to map them in Cubase? To use the sliders for volume change and the rec/play/stop buttons would be enough daw contol or me.
Couldn’t find that in the manual.

Rob’n - 26 January 2016 03:02 AM

Doesn’t Montage send it’s controller changes as midi messages? If so, why isn’t it possible to map them in Cubase? To use the sliders for volume change and the rec/play/stop buttons would be enough daw contol or me.
Couldn’t find that in the manual.

I could be wrong but I think the Montage is actually going into the realm beyond midi where it’s more about motion and flow .