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icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
I was commenting that 5PinDIN was being ignorant in his comments about JLM’s faith. He is allowed to share his love for Christ on a forum that is for any topic (Mo Lounge). I know that 5PinDIN has helped people on Motifator, but that does not excuse him or Psychobabble for flaunting their ignorance on faith. If they think that we Christians are forcing our beliefs on them or think they are worthless sacks of crap for being Godless, then that is something they alone have a problem with. |
icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
One more thing. Church is for God, Mo Lounge is for any topic. |
philwoodmusic
Total Posts: 1055
Joined 07-01-2013 status: Guru |
Then you should be forgiving everybody. |
JLM
Total Posts: 76
Joined 11-26-2008 status: Experienced |
Phil, Thank You for your honesty. I have many friends who are not Christian. Many of them have had illness and family problems and my wife and I have prayed for them. I honestly read right passed the link information requesting my opinion. My wife and I will be filling out the survey as requested. I sent a personal message to the person that posted the question and apologized for starting this conversation.
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5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
I certainly don’t think “JLM is better” than I am, nor do I think I’m his better. That’s the point - no matter how many righteous deeds you proclaim have been done by members of your faith, that doesn’t raise your status, because others of a different organized religion, or no faith at all, have also done such things. You’re just like the rest of us, we just don’t feel the need to blow our own horns. If you’re accusing me of “hate speech”, I suggest that you reread everything I’ve posted in this thread. It’s all there - unlike some people, I haven’t done any editing. Your “people like 5pinDIN and Psychobabble” comment serves to prove that you stereotype and see hate where it doesn’t exist, since my posts have been nothing like psychobabble‘s.
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While it’s true that I don’t often post on Mo lounge, I didn’t say what you’re claiming… and you couldn’t possibly know my reasons, since I didn’t state them.
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I really need to step up my game if you think I was trying to “tear down people’s faith”, subtly or otherwise. You can choose to trust what I’m saying or not, but I really don’t care if you practice a particular faith. As I’ve already stated, please just don’t push it on others who want no part of it, even if you’re convinced you’re doing the right thing.
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Your declaration that I’m ignorant on the topic of faith is yet another demeaning, intolerant comment. You have no way of knowing what I know, yet you take a position of superiority.
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I have a much higher opinion of myself than you think I do. It’s your prejudice against those who don’t follow your faith that’s showing. You’re apparently the one with the problem. |
icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
You were trying to lump Christians with other faiths. Maybe not directly, but they are included since Jesus was mentioned. That was wrong. I do not feel superior when I defend my faith from those who do not understand it. I do not place myself in higher standing because of my faith. Where do you get that silly notion? I may not know anything about you 5pinDIN, but your posts have shown ignorance by stating that religious people are trying enforce beliefs or oppress. It is that same ignorance that fuels your own superiority.
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MrMotif
Total Posts: 1122
Joined 10-02-2002 status: Administrator |
We’ve left this thread to its own devices because Motifator does believe in free speech and the Lounge was created for those who use Motif to let off steam about pretty much anything they want. Although this thread got dangerously close to coming off the rails, it did manage to scramble back on and for that we are very grateful. That said, can I put in a big and respectful request to all those who have now stated and re-stated their positions many times to move on? There are lots of exciting things we should be talking about in the Lounge that at least have ‘some’ bearing on Motif. Namely:
* Web MIDI
Happy 4th (at least for those of us here in USA) |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
You have a vivid imagination. I didn’t mention Jesus even once in any of my posts (previous to this reply).
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Your comments contradict your claims. Just by stating that I’m ignorant of religion, you attempt to take a superior position. There are those of your religion who make every effort to turn religious dogma into law that affects all citizens, and it’s pathetic if you’re truly unaware of that.
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Once more, for clarity… I don’t care about what anyone’s religion/faith is. I do care when people use it to justify certain behavior. You have again accused me of both hate and ignorance. As I said, you see hatred where there is none. Of course, your posts could eventually cause me to change my mind. That might be your goal - a self-fulfilling prophecy - since you could then claim that you were correct about the hatred. |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
Sorry, I was composing a reply while you posted, and I didn’t see your request until afterward. Even though I’m feeling rather abused, I’ll comply from this point on. |
icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
And there are people who twist the Christian faith by claiming they try to twist laws. Those are actions of a few and do not dictate the faith as a whole. The thought of religious dogma or religious oppression is what is truly pathetic, and that puts you in a superior postion. Of course, you are unaware of it. |
icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
Just saw the reply you gave afterward. It is time to comply as well. God Bless! |
Way_ne
Total Posts: 1291
Joined 01-26-2003 status: Guru |
Did you say “ex-leper”? |
clownsintheattic
Total Posts: 5
Joined 09-08-2012 status: Newcomer |
Jesus is the Savior of the world. Go search a documentary called"Case For Christ” By Lee Strobel |
icarus800
Total Posts: 39
Joined 11-13-2011 status: Regular |
We have both left the thread alone Psychobabble. It was for the best. I will pray for you. God Bless. |
stoneb3
Total Posts: 851
Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
Left what alone? You can’t stop, it’s like you’re on some religious heroin. Christ even the JW’s leave when they knock on my door. I personally find all your godly zealot like postings to be extremely offensive to my religion. At this point my greatest fear is going to heaven and sitting next to you. I don’t think annoying the living out of other people is your ticket to any heaven pal but if it is you’ll be the star.
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