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Posted on: June 01, 2015 @ 12:25 PM
msavard
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Hey everyone,

I’m doing a research project that is asking the question “Who is Jesus?”. I am especially interested in non-christian responses to the question though anyone is free to participate.

The survey is 100% anonymous and only has one required question ("Who is Jesus") so it doesn’t take hardly any time to answer. The more participation the better the research project will be. If you can help, please head over to the survey (it’s just a google form) and tell me who you believe the real Jesus to be. Like I said, it’s totally anonymous so you can be brutally honest.

Thanks for helping!!

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Posted on: June 25, 2015 @ 08:47 PM
JLM
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The real Jesus is what the bible says he is...Not what he is supposed to be according to people who don’t know or those who have not read the bible.
I have a question....Why is there a war on Christianity now. Not only in this country, but all over the world. BTW, There are many, many gospel musicians in this country that know Jesus as well. I’m not preaching I’m just stating that I, or anyone else in this country, has a right to follow and worship Jesus. We do not try to take away the rights of Atheist. There are two major divides in our country right now. The people who are claiming that anyone who is white is a racist and anyone who is Christian, is a racist and full of hate. NOT TRUE ON EITHER!
Quit stereo typing people and unite as fellow human beings.
That’s the only way we are going to survive.

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Posted on: June 26, 2015 @ 11:39 PM
BSR
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Jesus is The Way, The Truth and The Life! He is The ONLY CHANCE for humankind salvation! He is The True God and eternal life!

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Posted on: June 27, 2015 @ 07:40 AM
InGodWeTrust
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This is my original, only, and last post.
It is meant to be returned to and re-read as long as the ‘power struggle’ continues.
I do wish to thank The Motifator Shop for the accessories during the 40th Anniversary Yamaha celebrations.

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To the Original OP, msavard,
BSR,
and JLM,

Edited Factually … The individual using psychobabble
is a non-believer (Atheist) , documented, (from another area) within this site.
~Blasphemy sins, can be repented;
Mortal sin, being more serious, are more difficult, but still can be forgiven.
“Blessed are the Believers..."~

Added Clarification/Edited for typos on Sunday 28June2015
The World being large, there are many Gods in the world.
All Gods are welcome in my life, and should be in yours.
Tolerance and Respect I owe to everyone, period.
Granted, that’s possible.

It’s those few without a God, that don’t hear God calling to them,
that is what is very sad.

“Blessed Assurance”, by James Ingram
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Added Monday 29June2015
The story behind the song
And the story of the beautiful and talented blind lyricist,
Fanny J. Crosby

“Forgiveness, is mine to give, always...” ~WindyStrings :)
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Added 01July2015
“I forgive you too” Marcus :)
My relationship with the Lord is very strong, and is the reason why I’m alive and hopeful. I wish never to diminish non-believers, only to offer my witness to the Lord, who is everything in my life. I am sorry that has inspired name calling and filthy language. My truth, is only The Lord’s Truth.
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Added 02July2015
Afterlife is exclusive, to humans who ask to be saved, according to my religion, and my God, Jesus.
Some think it’s automatic that we’re all gonna get there, but this is incorrect.
This offer is open-ended to ALL who ask with contrition and Faith.
It does help greatly to be moral, respectful, kind, and tolerant. :)

It’s okay for anyone to be Atheist… but just, okay.
There is something better out there!
Who wouldn’t want something better!  ...after 80 or 90 years of this! :)

As my friend has said, “Forgiveness is always mine to offer”.

“Festival Of Lights” ... only five months in the future!  :-)
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Added 03July2015
*I only endorse this post, not later posts by icarus800*

icarus800 - 02 July 2015 09:34 PM

JLM you have nothing to apologize for. You are allowed to express that Jesus is your Lord and Savior. If people think you are guilty of Pride and believe that you are shoving your beliefs down their throats then that is their misinterpretation and furthermore is something they alone must wrestle with. Christians do not beat people over the head with their bibles, they are to be witnesses to the Word of God and share His teachings. God gave us the free will to accept Him or not. Simple. JLM I am sorry about those to show so much hate towards you. This is a fallen world, so you must be strong in your faith as I am in mine. God Bless.

Thank you for your courage. @icarus800

Be humble, instead of combative always, and keep trying to offer this gift,
.... that I rarely offer or initiate anymore,
except at CHRISTMAS and all other HOLIDAY TIMES.
“There is no good deed that ever goes un-punished” !  :-)

BE more PROUD OF THE LORD,
THE BLESSED MOTHER MARY,
and THE HOLY SPIRIT,
than self,
....ask MICHAEL to assist with struggles,
if any arise from evil hatred.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.

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List of Atheists in Music

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Added Independence Day, 2015! .... Oorah !! :-)
*Edited-Date Clarification, Sunday, 5July2015

Debate with a Theologian.
This would be a more fair discussion to balance impatience and hate toward people, for any ‘good’ reason.

When on the street, in public, would I act this way, say these things?
I trust in myself to know I would become silent upon request in that environment out of respect and tolerance for others.
Internet Bully’s never stumble upon concealed weapons permits,
ex-law enforcement officers, private investigators, or private security,
who are kind and patience persons they’re hating on, at a wrong moment.
When trapped backed into a corner, watch how contemporary Christians quickly become less-weak,
before the very eyes of ignorance.

As said before,
Tolerance and Respect I owe everyone, period; Granted it’s possible.

To all United States Veterans
THANK YOU!

All Kinds of People
Colors,
Nationalities,
Religions,
Educations,
Genders
...throughout the World,
All Are Welcome!
Tell your Truth too!
But in civil tongues, respectful toward all others....

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Posted on: June 27, 2015 @ 09:38 PM
JLM
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Joined  11-26-2008
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@PhsycoBabble...Please go take you meds all make that appointment with your shrink early on Monday morning. Christian haters don’t bother me. I don’t hate, you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted on: June 28, 2015 @ 02:29 PM
JLM
Total Posts:  76
Joined  11-26-2008
status: Experienced

Babble, I proved my point. You are full of hate. Also you need to get help.
I was asked about Jesus and I openly responded. Even if you don’t believe in Jesus.
The things that Jesus taught, were peace love and tolerance.
I was asked about Jesus, not Christians. Any one can twist any religion.
Example - ISIS. And you are very Cowardly to hide behind the Internet to call me names.
Have a nice life and be sure to make that appointment!!!
In my heart Jesus is alive. I guess it’s up to you to prove other wise.

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Posted on: June 28, 2015 @ 05:24 PM
JLM
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Babble, Let it go. You have proven your point, that you can’t co-exist.
Way too much hatred. I do find your private messages of name calling concerning and entertaining.
I just gave my opinion to someone. (on this forum) asking about Jesus. You prove the point, of how really divided we are in this country now. Some people try to have discussion and understand all opinions. You prefer to categorize all Christians as bad. Very small minded thinking. It’s funny how, you just assume that because I’m Christian, that I’m white and I’m racist. How utterly narrow minded. Millions of African Americans in this country are devout Christians. BTW, this forum category, “Mo Lounge” is for any subject or topic. Maybe you should complain that we can’t talk politics or religion any longer. Oh but that would infringe on free speech. The 1st amendment.

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 06:18 AM
BSR
Total Posts:  215
Joined  08-10-2003
status: Enthusiast

What I did said wrong? I just told you who is Jesus, simply as good day, nothing more! Please don’t make a big deal from what I did said! Thank you and have a blessed week!

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 09:49 AM
5pinDIN
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Other synth-related forums I’m a member of make religion and politics taboo. I think that’s a good idea because they tend to be controversial topics, but apparently MrMotif has a more tolerant attitude.

At least msavard (the OP) had the good sense to ask for comments to be posted at a site other than Motifator.

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 10:29 AM
MrMotif
Total Posts:  1092
Joined  10-02-2002
status: Administrator

While we do ‘allow’ posts and threads that are seemingly way, way off any topic that relates to Motif, we can’t and won’t allow posts and threads to continue that use offensive and abusive language. So we’re deleting some posts here and will be quite happy to delete the entire thread unless people can keep it civil. C’mon now guys.

Pyschobabble, if you really do want to get banned we’re perfectly happy to oblige but might we suggest that instead of initiating your permanent removal you either remove yourself by not posting anymore or - better by far - just remove what you know perfectly well is extreme silliness from your posts and be who you are without sinking to abuse. It can be done!

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 12:01 PM
5pinDIN
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Apparently my earlier post was too subtle, and was perhaps at least partially misinterpreted. While I won’t resort to the language that was used, I don’t disagree with much of what psychobabble said.

I don’t care about anyone else’s religion, or lack of it. Just don’t attempt to push your faith on me, or try to convince me of its superiority. Religion should be a private thing - please keep it to yourself.

What’s truly sad is when those “with” religion think that those “without” it (or their particular brand of it), should be pitied or disrespected. It’s amazing how people who claim that their beliefs aren’t tolerated are so intolerant of others.

Morality isn’t exclusive to those who “believe”. If you’re a decent person, I’ll gladly be your friend. If you treat me with respect, I’ll reciprocate.

Anyone offended by my secular approach should probably ignore all my Motifator posts - it wouldn’t be right to accept assistance from someone who is “godless”.

If my comments are out of line, please feel free to ban me, too.

@ psychobabble:
Please reconsider. If you leave, the very forces with whom you have issues will feel empowered, and gain an even stronger foothold. Then I’ll feel the need to leave.

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 05:49 PM
stoneb3
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5pinDIN - 01 July 2015 12:01 PM

Apparently my earlier post was too subtle, and was perhaps at least partially misinterpreted. While I won’t resort to the language that was used, I don’t disagree with much of what psychobabble said.

I don’t care about anyone else’s religion, or lack of it. Just don’t attempt to push your faith on me, or try to convince me of its superiority. Religion should be a private thing - please keep it to yourself.

What’s truly sad is when those “with” religion think that those “without” it (or their particular brand of it), should be pitied or disrespected. It’s amazing how people who claim that their beliefs aren’t tolerated are so intolerant of others.

Morality isn’t exclusive to those who “believe”. If you’re a decent person, I’ll gladly be your friend. If you treat me with respect, I’ll reciprocate.

Anyone offended by my secular approach should probably ignore all my Motifator posts - it wouldn’t be right to accept assistance from someone who is “godless”.

If my comments are out of line, please feel free to ban me, too.

@ psychobabble:
Please reconsider. If you leave, the very forces with whom you have issues will feel empowered, and gain an even stronger foothold. Then I’ll feel the need to leave.

Thanks, this saved me a bunch of typing.  Moving on…

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 05:59 PM
stoneb3
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psychobabble - 27 June 2015 05:41 AM

How very sad…

Both of you should test your faith by driving with your eyes closed.

Outlandish as it may seem, this suggestion has merit. Either it’ll work or it won’t. Please pick an empty road.

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Posted on: July 01, 2015 @ 06:52 PM
cal900
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At the risk of being very wordy on a forum for Yamaha music hardware, I wanted to see if I can bring understanding to this from my point of view, if I might.  For anyone reading thus far in this forum on this post, I’d like to address understandable misunderstandings.  So, if anyone would put up with this, I’ll start (my intention is to NOT preach, although we may take an impromptu offering at the end :). 

Jesus is the only one that can change my life from the dirt I really am.  So, in the process of doing just that, the Christian who follows Him and gets all cleaned off is alarmingly aware of the disaster at the end of the road for all of us without Him.  It’s a deep concern borne out of the compassion one takes up when they recognize the reality of who we really are without Him.  (The Christian has a really heavy “burden” for those who don’t know, and communicates these ideas that are misinterpreted in all kinds of ways, albeit sometimes brought on by themselves.)

I understand the (sometimes extreme) uneasiness for those in this forum that participated in both sides of this discussion the way it happened (no apologies offered or required).  All in all, the Christian certainly means (or should mean) no offense; often it’s their own experience of the need for Jesus to change each of our own lives that causes the intense concern that understandably looks like impositions on those who haven’t experienced the change Jesus gives them.  (Did you get all that?  Maybe not easy to understand, but I figured I’d take a shot at it.)

Now, on to synth business.  I’d like to tell you, 5pinDIN, thank you again for the help and direction you gave me on two occasions for my XF7.  It makes more than just a “lot of difference”.  (And, I still want to be like you when I grow up.  Although I may be your same age, or older...) ;) Thanks!

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Posted on: July 02, 2015 @ 05:19 AM
5pinDIN
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cal900 - 01 July 2015 06:52 PM

[...]Jesus is the only one that can change my life from the dirt I really am.  So, in the process of doing just that, the Christian who follows Him and gets all cleaned off is alarmingly aware of the disaster at the end of the road for all of us without Him.  It’s a deep concern borne out of the compassion one takes up when they recognize the reality of who we really are without Him.  (The Christian has a really heavy “burden” for those who don’t know, and communicates these ideas that are misinterpreted in all kinds of ways, albeit sometimes brought on by themselves.)

I understand the (sometimes extreme) uneasiness for those in this forum that participated in both sides of this discussion the way it happened (no apologies offered or required).  All in all, the Christian certainly means (or should mean) no offense; often it’s their own experience of the need for Jesus to change each of our own lives that causes the intense concern that understandably looks like impositions on those who haven’t experienced the change Jesus gives them.  (Did you get all that?  Maybe not easy to understand, but I figured I’d take a shot at it.)

Thanks for explaining how you see things. Please allow me to repeat what I said, with emphasis…
Morality isn’t exclusive to those who “believe”.

I understand the need for some to look outside themselves for guidance. However, just because a person has such a need doesn’t mean all of us do.

Some of us feel that we have a pretty good built-in moral/ethical compass, and don’t need an external reference. More to the point, we certainly don’t want to be told that without “faith” we are somehow deficient, or worse. Doing that indicates a complete lack of respect.

I’ve never intentionally hurt another person, or any other life form (except for a few insects that were “bugging” me :-) ). I’ve always tried to help others. I wish that in my life I had been so treated by others, including “believers”. There are apparently many for whom the so-called “Golden Rule” is unidirectional.

I have no problem with religion, as long as its basis is love and not hate, and the faithful don’t proselytize.

To me, religion is like medication. If you need a cure, by all means take your meds, but don’t assume the rest of us will benefit from the same pharmaceuticals.

 

cal900 -

Now, on to synth business.  I’d like to tell you, 5pinDIN, thank you again for the help and direction you gave me on two occasions for my XF7.  It makes more than just a “lot of difference”.  (And, I still want to be like you when I grow up.  Although I may be your same age, or older...) ;) Thanks!

You’re welcome. It seems that for my own well being, I should stick to synths and avoid reading Mo Lounge topics.

By the way, based on one of your previous posts, it appears that I’m almost a decade older than you. Even if you wouldn’t want to emulate my “no religion” attitude, you’ve got time to catch up on Motif knowledge. :-)

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Posted on: July 02, 2015 @ 10:34 AM
cal900
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Well spoken. I appreciate ya!  Thanks.

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