Hello Forum, I recently purchased a Yamaha MOXF8 with the 512 flash rom and Chick Corea Mark V rhodes sample.  I successfully installed the Rhodes into the flash rom (only 111mb available).  But cannot locate the sound palette for the Rhodes anywhere in voice mode.  Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong?

Motif XF File format is .X3A or .X3V
MOXF File format is .X6A or .X6V

From a previous post on this subject..............................

There is VOICE compatibility between the MOXF and the Motif XF. This does not mean you can just load ALL data from the Motif XF to the MOXF. The products are indeed different. Within the limitations of the differences you will be able to use data created specifically for the Motif XF. But ignore the limitations at your own peril. Here are some of the basic differences to be aware of

Motif XF __ MOXF VOICE Mode
PRESET 1 __ PRESET 1
PRESET 2 __ PRESET 2
PRESET 3 __ PRESET 3
PRESET 4 __ PRESET 4
PRESET 5 __ PRESET 5
PRESET 6 __ PRESET 6
PRESET 7 __ PRESET 7
PRESET 8 __ PRESET 8
________ __ PRESET 9
USER 1 _ __ USER 1
USER 2 _ __ USER 2
USER 3 _ __ USER 3
USER 4 _ __ N/A

PERFORMANCES:
The Motif XF has 4 Banks of 128 PERFORMANCES; 512 Total
THe MOXF has 2 Banks of 128 PERFORMANCES: 256 Total

FLASH BOARD Slots:
The Motif XF has Flash expansion capability of two boards; 2GB maximum. 2048 Waveforms per Board ,4096 Waveforms total.
The MOXF has one Flash expansion slot; 1GB maximum. 2048 Waveforms total.

The Motif XF has one more USER bank than the MOXF. The Motif XF can hold 512 USER VOICE, the MOXF can hold 384. Therefore, if you are loading data created for a Motif XF you must follow instructions and learn to redirect the VOICES you want to the Banks and locations you want to place them.

INFORMATION
The Chick Corea Rhodes sound is made up of the following data:
Approx 400MB of data total - this requires the majority of a 512MB board and about 40% of a 1GB Board.

5 Waveforms
487 Keybanks (samples)
Total VOICES = 16

VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION
The original data for the Motif XF was housed in USER 4 bank of the file - so you cannot just blindly load the data without knowing where it is or where you are going to put it. This is what stumps 98% of the people stumped by this. They do not realize that you have to know where the data originates and where the data is going to go. If you do not, prepare to be LOST!!!!

The most efficient way for a MOXF Owner to load this Motif XF data is as follows:

Place the .X3A File on a USB stick you use with your MOXF.
Decide ahead of time which 16 VOICES you wish to overwrite in your current USER 1, USER 2 or USER 3 banks.

The Chick Corea Rhodes Voices are located in the FILE at the following location: USER 4 Voices: 001-016.

Lets say you decide to load the VOICE data to the first 16 locations of USER 3 in your MOXF.

What this means in layman’s terms:

Data in the Motif XF FILE originating at USER 4:001(A01) will be directed to USER 3:001(A01).

This can be done one VOICE at a time as follows:

__SOURCE__ -> DESTINATION
USER 4:001 -> USER 3:001
USER 4:002 -> USER 3:002
USER 4:003 -> USER 3:003
USER 4:004 -> USER 3:004
USER 4:005 -> USER 3:005
USER 4:006 -> USER 3:006
USER 4:007 -> USER 3:007
USER 4:008 -> USER 3:008
USER 4:009 -> USER 3:009
USER 4:010 -> USER 3:010
USER 4:011 -> USER 3:011
USER 4:012 -> USER 3:012
USER 4:013 -> USER 3:013
USER 4:014 -> USER 3:014
USER 4:015 -> USER 3:015
USER 4:016 -> USER 3:016

Press [FILE]
Press [F3] LOAD
Set TYPE = VOICE
Make sure the “WITH WAVEFORM” is marked.
Move the CURSOR into the DIRECTORY (right side of the screen) and highlight the CHICK COREA RHODES.X3A file
Press [ENTER] to ‘open’ the FILE
You will see the five FOLDERS: USER 1, USER 2, USER 3, USER 4, USER DR.
Highlight the “USER 4” Folder
Press ENTER to view data in the Motif XF USER 4 FOLDER… you will see a list of 128 VOICES that occupy the File’s USER 4 Folder.

The Chick Corea Rhodes Voices occupy the first 16 locations.

Highlight the first Voice in the list: “Chick’s Mark V”
Move the cursor to the LEFT side and select the Target DESTINATION
Set the Destination to USER 3:001

Press [SF1] EXEC to execute.

The VOICE will be loaded to USER 3:001(A01) of your internal MOXF
The Waveform and its Samples will be installed on your Flash Board (this will take some time for the first Voice)… the screen will indicated that data is being installed on the Flash Memory Expansion Module.

When complete (all 400MB of Waveforms/Samples will be installed),
you can setup to load the second VOICE… since the Waveforms and Samples are already in place (and your MOXF “knows” it) this second Voice will load very fast, as will the rest of them…

Because the data is all coming from the same File, the MOXF knows that the second Voice uses the same samples and waveforms as the first Voice and does not duplicate its work, it simply repoints the second Voice to the same location it placed the Waveforms and Samples of the first Voice.

Continue to direct the USER 4 Voices to the corresponding locations in USER 3 of your MOXF.

Alternative Method
Press [FILE]
Set the File TYPE = 1 BANK VOICE
mark the box “[x] With Sample”
And instead of loading individual Voices you can load USER 4 to USER 1, 2 or 3 of your MOXF
Highlight the Corea Rhodes .X3A file
Press [ENTER]
You will see the 5 Folders of the FILE
Highlight USER 4
Move the cursor to the LEFT and set the target as USER 1, USER 2 or USER 3 in your internal.
This will load all the VOICES from USER 4 of the FILE to your MOXF bank 1, 2 or 3.

Now that you have customized your WAVEFORM data on your FLASH BOARD, you must make a BACKUP file of your data. The fact that you redirected the Chick Corea data to your Flash board, needs to be documented in a MOXF ALL data file to back up your work. Do so.

From now on you would use your file (not the Motif XF File).

I purchased the Chick Corea Mark V voice set pre-loaded onto a USB
flash drive. Following BadMister’s instructions I successfully copied the voices into my moXF. GREAT sound set!  To find the voices from the files on the USB flash drive, I discovered that they were the first 13 files in the USER 2 file rather than the expected USER 4 file.  So if the Mark 5 sounds seem missing for your download, check the other USER files.  As yet I have not found the 3 demo tracks which are supposedly included in this set…

kiteley - 08 May 2014 01:52 PM

[...] As yet I have not found the 3 demo tracks which are supposedly included in this set…

XF sequences are not compatible with the MOXF.

See page 157 of the MOXF Reference Manual for Motif XF file compatibility information. Note that XF Songs and Patterns (in .X3A, .X3S, and .X3P files) are compatible only as far as Waveforms.