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BobosCurse
Total Posts: 81
Joined 12-31-2013 status: Experienced |
I created a performance with just one part. The voice itself has the effects I want, but the performance doesn’t. Is there a way to tell the performance that I want it to use the effects from that voice? |
jshep0102
Total Posts: 290
Joined 11-16-2012 status: Enthusiast |
In your Performance click Edit> Common> Effect> Ins Sw - make sure it’s set to on, be sure to save if you had to change it! |
BobosCurse
Total Posts: 81
Joined 12-31-2013 status: Experienced |
Yes, it’s already set to ON. |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
To understand what happens, a Voice in Voice mode has 2 Insert Effects which are apart of the Voice architecture itself. Insert Effects can have controllers assigned to control them in real time. The Voice also uses the following items from the system… A reverb, a chorus (time delay) effect, plus a master effect, and a master EQ, before the output. When you take your Voice and go to Performance mode, or Song mode or Pattern mode - you place it in a PART. The PART parameters work like a mixer allowing you to combine multiple Voices together, it is like an individual musician joining a band… and the band has a mixer. You plug the output of your individual sound into the band’s mixer. That mixer resets your volume to 100, pans you center, strips off the reverb and chorus processor, resets the Master Effect, sets the channel of the mixer so that the EQ is flat, etc., etc., So of course, the Voice sounds different in a Performance. Although it brought along its 2 Insertion Effects, it did not bring along the SYSTEM EFFECTS or the EQ, or the Master Effects… All the musicians in the band share the system mixer… In your case you are only using one Part of the Performance, but you can understand that the Performance PART parameters are the settings on this virtual mixer.
The Good News:
From your PERFORMANCE
This will copy the Effect Types, but does not make the SEND amount settings, naturally, you do that by ear, in the context of the Voices you’re combining this with. Manually set your Reverb and Chorus SEND amounts to your taste. Hope that helps. |
jshep0102
Total Posts: 290
Joined 11-16-2012 status: Enthusiast |
It’s odd that I’ve not had to do that. It’s always been about the Ins Sw. Then again, it’s probably to do with the Melas Editor. |
SSquared
Total Posts: 165
Joined 01-29-2014 status: Pro |
This has been extremely helpful. Thank you. Between this post and one of the articles, it will help me moving forward as I create sounds. It means I need to rethink which effects I use for Inserts vs. System/Master for a Voice. On my Motif Rack-XS I only used Voices, so never thought about the consequences of this. But with the MOXF I have been working on Performances and eventually Mixing Songs/Patterns. |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
It helps to think about it as a mixing console that has two Aux Sends… the REVERB - you only need one for all the instruments because each channel has a send amount. Reverb recreates the natural outer environment, the room or space in which all the music takes place. The Send amount helps position the music closer or further from the ‘listener’. The CHORUS (or Time Delay) effect is also reached by this Aux Send arrangement. The Insert Effects belong to the individual musician (Distortion and wah-wah on the guitar; Overdrive and Rotary Speaker on the organ, Damper Resonance (soundboard) and VCM EQ on the piano, etc., etc.). |