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wsurfr
Total Posts: 3
Joined 02-16-2014 status: Newcomer |
Hi, I’m new to the MOXF and Cubase, but I have seen the video tutorials and read the Intro to Recording articles. So, I have a 4 part song in the MOXF that I would like to record in Cubase AI 7, and so far no luck. I set up the song in the MOXF, use the quick setup 1 (DAW recording), then I go to Cubase, start an empty project, and then I add 4 instrument tracks. When I select the MOXF external VST, 4 editor windows pop up (each in voice mode), and for an instant I get a Port Error message, then it goes away. All 4 windows show Offline. So, with track 1 selected in Cubase, I switch the editor to Song mode (goes to synching MOXF->Computer), and then all 16 voices are loaded, the first 4 correspond to the voices that were in my song. Here is where I get lost: In my song, track 1 is a drum patch with an arpegio, Track 2 is a bass track with an arpegio, tracks 2 and 3 are a pad and piano. However, when I arm all 4 tracks and go to record in the transport panel, no sound even though there seem to be midi signals in the track (all of them show the same signal). When I only arm 1 track for recording (the drum with arpegio), no sound again. Upon playback, the track does not show the arpegio, only a discrete number of sounds.
Obviously I am doing something wrong.
2) How can I listen to the entire song as I am recording it (I have local control off, external seq synch, and in cubase I am allowing midi Thru. Thank you!! |
Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
We’ll stop you right here. You do not have (in all likelihood) four MOXF’s, an INSTRUMENT Track is not used with your MOXF. If you have only one MOXF, can we suggest the following: Cubase “Instrument tracks” are for single instrument VST that are capable of making only one timbre at a time… With a single stereo output. “MIDI tracks”, however, are for Multi-timbral tone engines (like your MOXF) - you create a MIDI TRACK to record your MOXF… You can have as many as 16 MIDI TRACKS associated with your Multi-timbral MOXF. But to do what you want you only need 1 MIDI track, initially. A single MIDI track will record all sixteen MIDI channels simultaneously. If you create four MIDI tracks each one will record all sixteen MIDI channels… Redundant and a MIDI mess… Just one track will do. Later you can divide the data to separate tracks (by MIDI channel) for editing purposes. (When using Cubase you will use MIDI Tracks with your MOXF, if you are using it for multiple Parts).
_ Open an Empty Cubase Project
CLOCK SETTINGS
MOXF:
Recording Performance mode arpeggios directly to the MOXF sequencer is the way to go. It is designed to record its own arpeggios. Then you can simply transfer the data as a sequence to Cubase.
Alternate (easy) Method
So quick and easy ... Worth learning how to set it up!!!
If the arpeggiated Parts are recorded to the MOXF’s internal sequencer they are no longer “arpeggiated Parts” - they become recorded MIDI event data, no different from data you might have played normally and recorded to a track. However, if you are transmitting the MIDI events generated by the Arpeggiators OUT via MIDI, they are different and require an entirely different method to record them. You can understand this because to Cubase the whole note C Major 7 chord you are holding down, looks just like the strummed notes coming out of the arpeggiator. It gets both messages ... What you played (a whole note chord) plus the arpeggiated strummed chords coming from the arpeggiator. They are all received by Cubase… Chaos! The same notes are being told to hold and play staccato. Chaos! Recording the arpeggios OUT via MIDI requires you separate the “trigger” notes from the “arpeggiated” results. So it requires a more complex MIDI arrangement. That filters the trigger notes (your held whole note chord) from the strummed guitar notes created by the arp. Local Control must be ON for the Arps to work (the arpeggiator is physically located between the MOXF keyboard and the MOXF tone engine), so MIDI notes must “dead end” in the DAW. There are Quick Setup Templates designed to help with recording arpeggio data Out to an external DAW. Which one you use will depend on the a Type of arpeggio Phrases involved. Arpeggio KEY MODE involves whether the arpeggio is a musical arp with note-on events, or whether it is an arpeggio that is controller data, or is an arpeggio that uses velocity zoning… It will depend on the Type of Arp.
Not enough information about what you are doing. Sorry. When you say Song… Did you record the Song to the MOXF’s internal sequencer? You cannot have LOCAL CONTROL = OFF and effectively work with the MOXF arpeggiators!!!!
Did you record to the MOXF’s internal sequencer?
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