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jerrydpi
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Happy New Years everyone!! Bad_Mister is right (as usual) again. I’m recording an original song (based upon a Performance I made) in the Pattern Mode and S**T, I see the light!!! I do notice something that might cause me a problem as I proceed. On my songs, many of my Voices sustain into the next measure. I just recorded a two measure Pattern and hit Play to see how it sounded. When the Pattern loops back to begin the Pattern again, those sustained notes cut off. How do you keep that from happening? Next question: When I’m adding Voices to Tracks 5 to 16, are the Voices in their original Voice Mode form (fx, etc)? If not, how do I make them so? Thanks! |
cmayhle
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1) I would suggest you not have any “bridges” between PATTERN sections, wait until you convert to a linear SONG to add tracks that “stitch” it all together. A PATTERN section has a distinct start and finish, nothing will carry past the finish point. That is how it is able to loop. Alternatively, start your project in SONG Mode. 2) AFAIK, if you bring a VOICE in with [Parameter with VOICE] checked ON, you will have as close to the original VOICE set-up as possible...obviously without the overall effects that the original VOICE had, they will be set up in the PATTERN. In any event, the insert effects of the VOICE shoul be brought in with it automatically. Whether or not they are selected to be activated will be up to you. |
jerrydpi
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Hello cmayhle! You have hit upon all my previous questions of when I asked if I should record in the Pattern or Song Mode (the most often answer being that it really didn’t matter). Are you saying that I should only record the Drums and Bass Guitar Sections in the Pattern Mode, convert it to a Song and then add the remaining Parts/Tracks that bridge the measures? In a previous Topic I said I started with a Performance and wanted to know how to vary the Performance for the different sections on my song (Intro/Verse/Chorus/etc). In a nutshell, the Performance had an ARP on Voice 3 (a guitar) that plays in the Intro but I don’t want it to play in the Verse. Here’s what Phil suggested:
If I could do the above (make the Guitar ARP not play and instead play what I want in the Verse) I could/would record in the Song Mode. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jerry |
cmayhle
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Well, that would certainly be one way to get your basic rhythm section down (assuming it can be accommodated by Sections with definite start and stop points), and let you then do tracks on top of that which are not confined to the limitations that PATTERN Mode has (by design) for unfettered linear playing...you know, the kind of anticipating and sustained notes that are done all the time to splice “sections” into flowing and seamless songs. |
jerrydpi
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So how would YOU record the song with the Performance that I need the Guitar to have its original ARP in some Sections and not have it playing in other Sections? |
cmayhle
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Well, assuming I understand the question correctly, I would probably record separate guitar tracks with separate configurations as desired, and choose the appropriate guitar track for each section as I prepared to build the chain. |
jerrydpi
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How do you do that when you’re recording from a Performance that:
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cmayhle
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Since it appears you are limiting yourself to only the four tracks produced recording a PERFORMANCE to the sequencer, why can’t you just record an Intro Section and a Verse Section (separately...in PATTERN Mode) with the correct guitar configuration set in each Section, then string your Sections together? |
jerrydpi
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The four tracks are the core of a sequenced song that will have nine tracks (as of this point) when completed. Regardless, I think I know why I perceived notes as cutting off. When I recorded the Intro, I’m sure I had the loop set for four measures. I just counted out the Intro and it is ten measures long total. The opening riffs play for four measures and then holds/sustains until the one of the sixth measure. The riffs picks up/starts again on the three of the sixth measure and plays/sustains until the one of the tenth measure. I’m hoping that setting the loop to ten measures will solve the problem, even though I don’t necessarily have to have the loop function enabled (is it possible to turn off, btw?). Thanks! Jerry
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Bad_Mister
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Ha,ha, yes in music it is. Helps in monetary issues as well!
Ask a question that only you can answer you can expect to get a non-useful answer.
When to use Pattern mode:
When to use Song mode:
Pattern Sections:
Notes that “hang into the next Section” are verboten, forbidden, not allowed, against the rules… Ok? MIDI is a series if coded messages, and a bit of code that is not within the lines is a bit of code that cannot properly be translated. You wrote it off the edge of the paper - it does not exist! Also don’t guess at how many measured you recorded - you don’t seem to know if you recorded two, four, or needed to record 10???? How is that possible?
The number of measures you recorded is documented in Pattern mode as follows:
Answer in this thread so your answers aren’t divided among nine threads on the same topic.... Thanks.
Answered in one of the many other threads on this same topic… Yikes! You even reference it above… Set this up.
Setup [SF1] ARP1 with the ARPs assigned to Parts 1-3 and 4 set to play - record to sequencer Section A
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jerrydpi
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Two questions:
1) Can a Section of a Pattern be a measure of nothing being played?
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Bad_Mister
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Yes. Musically this would be considered a Rest. Technically, speaking a Section with nothing in it is an oxymoron, you would need to create a one measure “placeholder” phrase. Or use the Pattern Chain function to define just one measure of a blank Section.
Question does not make any sense… Probably terminology. What did you want to do.
There are 16 Track in the sequencer, whether you are using Song or Pattern mode, never 4.
I can name other famous 4’s, the Beatles, the 4 Tops, ...
If I were to take a guess, you want to know can you make a Performance with one Voice in it. Yes you can.
A Track stores MIDI performing data and is a feature found in a recording device - in this case the sequencer
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jerrydpi
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Can you record just one Voice/Track (not 4) in a Pattern? I want the A Section, which I’m assuming (uh-oh :-)) that Sections are only available in the Pattern Mode, to be four quarter note side-sticks (from a Drum Voice) to be my count in. |
cmayhle
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jerrydpi, it seems to me (I could certainly be off base) that you are sort of backed into a corner thinking only in terms of PERFORMANCE record to the sequencer. Since you have 16 tracks available in the sequencer, after you Direct Record a PERFORMANCE why not just add a single additional track if you wish? |
jerrydpi
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Hello buddy! I’m just trying to find a way to have a one measure count-in of some type recorded as part of my Section Chain. Thanks! Jerry |
5pinDIN
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Maybe I’m missing the point, but couldn’t you record whatever count-in you want to an empty Section, and then position that Section at the beginning of your Chain? |