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Posted on: October 23, 2013 @ 04:49 AM
jsegovia
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I’ve looked around the forum to find out more about how the flash memory board works in the Motif XF and the new MOXF.  As I understand it, with the board installed the board will come up as an alternate storage location for my voices/performances/songs, etc.  I can then call them up any time to use on the board.

And I can also purchase and download 3rd party voices and store them on the board, right?  I’m assuming you connect your PC to the keyboard via USB cable and then run an install program on the PC that sends the sounds into the keyboard - is that correct?  Does this program let you choose where the 3rd party sounds would be stored on the flash board?

Is there anything else an installed flash memory board would give me in the MOXF?

Thanks.

Jesse

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Posted on: October 23, 2013 @ 04:57 AM
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jsegovia - 23 October 2013 04:49 AM

I’ve looked around the forum to find out more about how the flash memory board works in the Motif XF and the new MOXF.  As I understand it, with the board installed the board will come up as an alternate storage location for my voices/performances/songs, etc.  I can then call them up any time to use on the board.

And I can also purchase and download 3rd party voices and store them on the board, right?  I’m assuming you connect your PC to the keyboard via USB cable and then run an install program on the PC that sends the sounds into the keyboard - is that correct?  Does this program let you choose where the 3rd party sounds would be stored on the flash board?

Is there anything else an installed flash memory board would give me in the MOXF?

Thanks.

Jesse

NO VOICES, PERFORMANCES, or SONGS will be stored to the Flash Board.

Those are all STORED onboard to USER locations.

Only Sample Data is STORED to the Flash Board.  This will allow you to install 3rd party (or your own) sounds that include new sample data. The simplest/most common way that new sample data is STORED to the Flash Board is via USB thumb drive plugged into the keyboard.  However, it is also possible to LOAD this type of data directly via a network connection between your computer and the keyboard

There are many 3rd party libraries that do not include any new samples, and they will not need or utilize the Flash Board.  These libraries use the Sample data already native to the machine to create new VOICES and PERFORMANCES...which again, will be STORED in USER BANK locations.

Search the Support area for articles on Flash Expansion (You will find this type of info in the XF section until a MOXF section is configured).

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Posted on: October 23, 2013 @ 05:37 AM
jsegovia
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Thanks again for the very helpful reply.  So I could purchase and load 3rd party sounds like the 80s Pop/Rock Volume 1 for the Motif XS and XF which doesn’t include samples on the MOXF8 without the flash board, right?

And thanks - I’ll check out the Support section for more help.

Jesse

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Posted on: October 23, 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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jsegovia - 23 October 2013 05:37 AM

Thanks again for the very helpful reply.  So I could purchase and load 3rd party sounds like the 80s Pop/Rock Volume 1 for the Motif XS and XF which doesn’t include samples on the MOXF8 without the flash board, right?

And thanks - I’ll check out the Support section for more help.

Jesse

Verify the file types first.

These libraries may be offered in the XS file format only, which the XF can read...hence they are usable for both the XS and XF.

The MOXF cannot read XS files...however, it can read XF files.

That said, I am sure you will not need to wait very long before many of these libraries...which did not require updating from the XS to the XF because of compatibility between the two...will now be updated to versions that the MOXF can utilize.

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Posted on: October 25, 2013 @ 02:46 AM
jsegovia
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Ah, so I can only use libraries made specifically in XF format?

Thanks very much for letting me know.  I have a lot of reading to do!  :)

Jesse

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Posted on: October 25, 2013 @ 06:57 AM
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Ah, so I can only use libraries made specifically in XF format?

The MOXF also read libraries made specifically for the MOX… which of course, did not include any user sample data, but to be technically correct. The MOXF is completely compatible with the previous MOX… including all file types and all types of data.

The compatibility with the Motif XF is limited to:
VOICES (including sampled data)
PERFORMANCES
USER ARPEGGIOS
MIX TEMPLATES
WAVEFORMS

For the “half-empty” folks: That means no compatibility with sequencer data. The sequencer data can be moved over using SMF (Standard MIDI File) format for transferring data (.MID)

Sampled Waveforms created/recorded to the Integrated Sampling Sequencer are compatible and can be transferred to the MOXF. In fact, that is the only thing that is extracted when you open a Motif XF .X3S (ALL SONG) or .X3P (ALL PATTERN) file: the MOX will read the WAVEFORM and place it on your FLASH BOARD.

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Posted on: June 27, 2018 @ 06:11 AM
chrisking497
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This is possibly a stupid question but say I purchase some new sounds/voices for the MOXF8, where do they get stored/written to? One of the User voice banks?

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Posted on: June 27, 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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NO VOICES, PERFORMANCES, or SONGS will be stored to the Flash Board.

Those are all STORED onboard to USER locations.

Only Sample Data is STORED to the Flash Board.  This will allow you to install 3rd party (or your own) sounds that include new sample data. The simplest/most common way that new sample data is STORED to the Flash Board is via USB thumb drive plugged into the keyboard.  However, it is also possible to LOAD this type of data directly via a network connection between your computer and the keyboard

There are many 3rd party libraries that do not include any new samples, and they will not need or utilize the Flash Board.  These libraries use the Sample data already native to the machine to create new VOICES and PERFORMANCES...which again, will be STORED in USER BANK locations.

Search the Support area for articles on Flash Expansion (You will find this type of info in the XF section until a MOXF section is configured).

So let’s say I run out of User Voice locations (unlikely I know but bear with me), can I store a bunch of voices/performances I need for a certain gig on a USB drive and load them when I get to the gig, for example?

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Posted on: June 27, 2018 @ 06:28 AM
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chrisking497 - 27 June 2018 06:11 AM

This is possibly a stupid question but say I purchase some new sounds/voices for the MOXF8, where do they get stored/written to? One of the User voice banks?

Please ignore this, I’ve just read the answer above.

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Posted on: June 27, 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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chrisking497 - 27 June 2018 06:26 AM

So let’s say I run out of User Voice locations (unlikely I know but bear with me), can I store a bunch of voices/performances I need for a certain gig on a USB drive and load them when I get to the gig, for example?

Yes. Presuming that the sounds were based on internal ROM samples, or that Samples/Waveforms were already stored on an (optional) flash module, the loading time could be quite short.

In addition, User Voices could be stored as Mixing Voices, providing up to another 256 locations. See my post here:
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/480012/

 
 

chrisking497 - 27 June 2018 06:28 AM
chrisking497 - 27 June 2018 06:11 AM

This is possibly a stupid question but say I purchase some new sounds/voices for the MOXF8, where do they get stored/written to? One of the User voice banks?

Please ignore this, I’ve just read the answer above.

Just so you know - the original post could have been EDITed.

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