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spike88
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Hi
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spike88
Total Posts: 154
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No suggestions then ? |
Bad_Mister
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Not sure what the exact question is. You can route any PART to an Assignable output, run that to an external Effect processor, return the signal to the A/D INPUT. And yes you can set the A/D INPUT as the SOURCE for the Integrated Sampler. So everything you need to do can be accomplished. You need to setup the AD INPUT PART… We assume you have details for this, if not, let us know.. Use the “line” level setting.
When you set up the sampler,
Press [F6] REC
Set the DESTINATION parameters to the Track (this is one that is assigned the Guitar PART) and Key (C3) you want the trigger note data to be written. You can record youself playing… But instead of your MIDI performance being recorded to the Track, a single MIDI Note-On event will be placed on the track. That Note will be assigned to trigger playback and control the audio sample now assigned to the PART of the MIXING program. When you complete the sample session, and press ENTER “to fix”, the Guitar Voice will be replaced by the new User Sample Voice, created by the Integrated Sampling Sequencer. This Voice (with your playing assigned to C3) will automatically be assigned to your MIXING setup. I recommend that you use the TRIGGER MODE = “measure” so you can set a Punch-in/Punch-out point. The Note-on event will be given a default velocity of 100, and the duration of the note will be determined by the punch in and punch out points, precisely. |
cmayhle
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Hey spike88, your thought process on this inquiry seems to be sound enough. I can’t answer some of your question, but as far as the routing of the guitar VOICE through the Assignable Outputs, you can’t do that with the guitar as a VOICE, but you can do it if you convert the VOICE to a PART, say...as a PERFORMANCE PART. See Bad_Mister’s instructions in This Thread on routing a VOICE as a PART through the Assignable Outputs. Since you mention the effect has MIDI, that may very well become part of you solution, but you will have to wait for others to assist you there. If I were you, I would convert the guitar VOICE to a PART, and give it a try running it back into the A/D input. The XS Owner’s Manual will instruct you on using Audio from the A/D Inputs for SONG/PATTERN recording. See page 242, Audio Recording to Song/Pattern (Sampling mode) EDIT: Bad_Mister posted while typing! |
spike88
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Thank you very much both of you for your advice.
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cmayhle
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I also have wondered a number of times why a normal VOICE cannot be sent to the Assignable Outputs. Perhaps Bad_Mister or others can give us some insight on this question. But...it is really not such a big deal to put it into a PERFORMANCE (Or SONG/PATTERN, as required) to get the routing accomplished.... |
DavePolich
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Well, think about it. Why would you want to send a single voice out the
The only reason you’d send something to assignable outputs would be in
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cmayhle
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Actually DavePolich, there are times (Especially in live performing where you can’t “re-patch” cables in real-time) where you may want certain VOICES to go to discreet outputs to rout them through external effects (And maintain real-time, hands-on control over the external effect parameter knobs and buttons) while other VOICES go through un-modified, when they are called up. You are correct that outside of PERFORMANCE Mode (Or SONG/PATTERN) you can only have (1) VOICE sounding at a time, but if you want to have one (Or some) VOICES routed to a specific effect (Say, Organs to a Neo Ventilator) and not others when you bring them up, then you have to use other more complex routing and/or VOICE PROGRAMMING/STORING options. Some outboard effects have a ‘thru’ option, but many do not. Also, many (most) outboard effects are mono, so routing specific VOICES to the Assignable Outs and ending up with a mono finished product doesn’t “dumb down” the rest of the stereo VOICES going through the Main Outs. I’m not saying this is a huge deal, just wondering why the assignment to an assignable output is not a VOICE routing option. There may very well be some engineering complexity that makes this a difficult provision. |
spike88
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Dave, I have put the reasons why in my post. I wouldn’t want the whole performance to be given a ping-pong delay which is one of the algorythms in the FX2000.
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cmayhle
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Spike88, keep in mind that in your example you have the option (With regard to a PERFORMANCE) to route only the guitar PART to the Assignable Outputs, and the other PARTS to the Main Output. It is only in VOICE mode that you cannot route a VOICE to the Assignable Oututs. If you only have a guitar sound to deal with, you can stay in VOICE Mode...and just run your guitar out through the Main Outputs, through the effect, and back into the A/D inputs to record it as you wish. |
spike88
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Yes cmayhle I realise that but in this case I wanted to use the other 3 parts of the performance and my workaround enabled me to do this. I will be trying the suggestions of yourself and Bad Mister later when time permits.
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