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Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Hi guys, I guess i don’t have to tell you anymore that the VST3 of the MOTIF doesn’t seem to work in FL Studio. The only way to make it work is to use a MIDI channel. Which is OK, but not great. I contacted FL Studio and they told me if it doesn’t work, it’s hard for them to integrate the Software without Yamaha sending them a Unit.. What about investing some and sending them an older XF? I know ALOT of people would be happy to see this happening. It’s like Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris teaming up..! |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Is the problem with VST3 or with the Motif XF Editor VST? What other VST3 plug-ins are your running successfully? You mention you got it running but it needs a MIDI channel - well yeah, it runs via MIDI, so this is not unusual. Please explain the issue, if you can. thanks. |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Bad_Mister, On FL-Studio all other VST3’s work properly, but they dont control any Hardware.
With midi channel i mean a MIDI OUT.
EVERYONE uses this method because the Motif XF VST3 does not work in FL Studio. (everyone = tons of users). I will also post my old thread here where the screenshots are with the errors i recieved. Here are a few other threads i found regarding the FLstudio + Motif VST3 http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/458445/ http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/458388/ http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/456744/ |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Bad_Mister, Check this thread out i made last year. You also tried to help me out here. (pictures are also there.) |
cmayhle
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Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
Hi Unheard, I’m not being flip here, this is a sincere question: If Image Line/FL Studio has a large customer base that is interested in solving the integration problem you are describing with the Motif, why would they wait around for Yamaha to send them a machine to work with? It would seem to be in their best interest to invest in one ASAP to solve these issues and sell more product. |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
cmayhle,
I can’t do anything but agree. But they simply don’t seem to care enough.
Kind of frustrating. Because their both awesome, but they refuse to shake hands atm. |
Bad_Mister
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That’s not fair, you didn’t tell me anything here. The thing is the Motif XF VST does control hardware! It is an audio routing issue. If you can please describe one VST3 that you have working - and specifically how you go about routing MIDI signal to that VST3 Instrument and how you return the audio to your DAW’s audio output, that would help me. Thanks. |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Bad_Mister, Not sure if you understand me, The VST3 for the Motif is the only VST3 i know that talks/controls hardware.
Other VST3’s i have are just simple synths. Example:
You just load up the VST3 like you would with any VST, and it works. It doesnt have any Routing like the Motif XF VST3 |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Isn’t it possible to put up a “Remote Desktop Session” to have you look at it? I know it doesn’t have a simple solution because no-one has ever figured this out. Or atleast, figured it out and posted it online. |
Bad_Mister
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But, of course, it has routing. Point is (and it is you that is not understanding me) that the routing for the Motif XF VST would be very much the same, although it may not be automatic ("it works"), it may require that you actually find how the MIDI data is routed from the TRACK to the VSTi and how that VSTi is assigned to return (playback) its audio to your audio interface.
What is your audio interface by the way?
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Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Using the Motif XF as my Soundcard.
Everyone has this problem. Do you think it is possible to set me up you or anyone else with technical knowledge that could do a “Remote desktop” session and try to figure out what has to be done to fix this problem for tons of people? |
Unheard
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Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Bad_Mister, Here are some more pictures, i think they mind look familiar to you because i saw them a few times in other threads:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z7fik63ie4lgq3j/fl motif 01.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bkir06hz95j2ex/fl motif 02.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dlnava451w186c/fl motif 03.jpg
Maybe it’s an idea to show this to the technical guys? Maybe they know a way to fix this up? |
Bad_Mister
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Your picture links do not work.
Sorry, I don’t know your program at all, but are you setting up the VST3 (Motif XF VST) to record MIDI data or AUDIO Data.?
In general you route MIDI data from the XF to the DAW, the MIDI goes back to the Motif XF via the VST Editor, which returns audio. That is typical routing. I don’t know if you are trying to record MIDI data or Audio data. Have you been able to record audio to it? |
Unheard
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There we go:
Yes, i do get sound out of the Motif if i use the tutorial i linked earlier. (Make a MIDI out channel, and link it to the motif XF) |
Bad_Mister
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I still don’t know if you are trying to record MIDI data or Audio data. There must be a way to set the AUDIO RETURNS within your DAW, sorry, again I’ve never worked with it. Your first screen shot is clipped at the top (so unfortunately we cannot see the whole EDITOR screen), is there any SETUP parameters you can set in that thing called a FRUITY WRAPPER (or whatever) I cannot imagine there are not several pages of setup parameters for communicating with your DAW. In the upper left corner of the EDITOR VST (does FL STUDIO add any setup parameters)???? I talking about in addittion to those native to the EDITOR VST? Should be able to configure those 8 Stereo Outputs (Returns to DAW)… has to be. simply has to be… does FL STUDIO have a manual? |
Unheard
Total Posts: 182
Joined 12-12-2010 status: Pro |
Im trying to record the same way i did in Cubase with the VST. I guess that was MIDI data. ill start the stuff up again and upload what i see. |