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moxmix
Total Posts: 78
Joined 11-20-2011 status: Experienced |
Is it possible to switch on/off the Insert-Effects during a Playback ?
I wish a Voice has partial a Reverb… |
iluvchiclets
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Joined 06-15-2007 status: Pro |
Hi, I asked a similar questions a while ago - perhaps my post will be of help… |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
If by “Edit-Mode” you mean the Sequencer, you can Switch ON and OFF which PARTS are recalling their dual Insertion Effects with System Exclusive messages. These are found in the DATA LIST booklet.
I’m not sure what this means “has partial a Reverb” can you please explain. |
moxmix
Total Posts: 78
Joined 11-20-2011 status: Experienced |
In example I’m editing a Song. Now I need a Delay-Effect to be active in the Measure 1 to 4 and inactive in the Measure 5 to 8. Is this possible in one Track while the Sequencer play’s a Song ? (switch on/off the Insertion Effect per “I don’t know"-Command in the Sequencer) ps : In the Past I create two Tracks with the same Instrument’s, one Track has no Delay the Other has |
Bad_Mister
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Yes. You can do it with System Exclusive messages.
If this works for you, it is one certainly one way to get this done. However if you want to do it via System Exclusive message you must be able to be very specific and define exactly what you want to happen: On which PART you wish to activate and deactivate the Insert Effect? And you must always be aware that a maximum of three PARTS can have their INS SW = ON.
Press [EDIT]
but as you can imagine you must be specific… it is not a simple command like Control Change because it must address the whole system |
nauform
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Joined 06-16-2011 status: Pro |
Look at the “Controller Set Destination” chart on page 99 (document: mox6mox8_en_dl_a0.pdf):
Now go to page 79 in the same document. The Delay effects parameter list begin there. What common thing can you see? Well, all of them have the parameter number 10:
No. --> Parameter --> Range --> Value
When this parameter is D63>W (value = 1) then NO delay effect is applied (dry) and when this parameter is DlessthanW63, value = 127, then the delay effect is applied to the maximum (wet). You must edit the voice, then in “Controller Set” you look for a free slot (1-6), after that you assign a free (not occupied) “Source” and you choose as “Destination” --> “Insertion Effect A Parameter 10” or “Insertion Effect B Parameter 10” (Dry/Wet Balance) and finally you store the voice. Please you should remember the “Source” assigned cause you’ll need to set this value to 1 for NOT delay or 127 for delay by insert, in the measure 4, a event type “Program Change” in SONG mode ;) P.S. Sorry, I don’t have my MOX8 in front of me in this moment, but you shouldn’t have any problem. If you cannot do it let me know it and I, or Bad_Mister, will explain you this procedure step by step. EDIT: sorry I’m having problems with the “less than” char |
dcool
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Joined 11-01-2006 status: Enthusiast |
I would create an user voice with delay that can be controlled by mod wheel and you can record all event change during the song with mod wheel. |
nauform
Total Posts: 122
Joined 06-16-2011 status: Pro |
This is the same thing that I’ve said but using mod wheel like “Source” in “Controller Set” ;) |
Bad_Mister
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Correct! :-D
However, you may find that MW is already assigned to its typical job of Pitch Modulation Depth control… fortunately, with the MOX you have other controllers that are up to the task.
By reducing the DRY/WET balance to all the way “DRY”, you are in affect turning the Insert OFF. However, you will discover that not all INSERT EFFECTS can be controlled by a DRY/WET balance - so your mileage will vary. Those that your typical “effect Effects” will have a DRY/WET balance (delays, chorus, flangers, etc.), but those that are utilities (for lack of a better word) like EQ, or Compressor/Limiters do not have a DRY/WET balance (for very good reason). To learn how nauform’s excellent suggestion works call up the following VOICE and study how its CONTROL SET is configured:
PRE 5:037(C05) Huge Lead
The Controller Set allows you to assign 6 physical controllers (SOURCE) to 6 target parameter Destinations (some 100 parameter destinations are available including control over certain available Insert Effect parameters)
Here you will discover that in Control Set #2: AS1(16) (Assignable Knob 1 - sending Control Change #016). It is set to control the “DRY/WET Balance” parameter of “INS B” (which happens to be the Tempo Control Delay you hear). You turn the ASSIGN 1 Knob counter-clockwise to reduce (remove) the delay
To access the ASSIGN 1 knob - you press the upper KNOB button (left front panel) to select the TONE 3 row .
Inserting the CC message into a SEQ
A value of 0 is minimum
Press [F6] SET to enter the value into the sequencer. Since the original stored setting for this particular item was Dry = Wet, a value of 64 would return the Effect as it was originally. In general you want to avoid SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE until absolutely necessary. Hope that helps. |
nauform
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Joined 06-16-2011 status: Pro |
:D B_M you’re the man! The only one in your especies explaining about the Motif/MOX.
hmm, here Yamaha should extend the idea to non physical controllers and CC=1-127 should be available as “Source” like other synths that I’ve programed. This case explains why.
Oh! Here your’re: the beast. Yamaha did a very good job including more destinations than many other synths
Totally agree and if it’s necessary I would advise at the beginning or in a break of a song. |