Odd situation.  Was experimenting in pattern record mode and substituting different voices in track one. 
In voice mode I really liked the sound of

107 G11 Six pack  AF1&2;.  SyComp

However once I inserted this voice into track one, no sound at all from this voice. 
Mute was not active and the other three tracks had voices playing.  Even when pressing cat search while in the pattern mode, this voice still wouldn’t play.  Other voices above and below it in the cat. Search view all worked fine

When I exited pattern mode to voice mode, the above voice played well. 

I checked what I knew to check.  No changes in midi channels, etc, or with mute.  Hope I stated this clearly enough.  I did advanced searches for select keywords but nothing came up

Thnx
Rich.

Odd situation.  Was experimenting in pattern record mode and substituting different voices in track one. 
In voice mode I really liked the sound of

107 G11 Six pack AF1&2;.  SyComp

I’m not next to my keyboard at the moment, but the name (with AF1&AF2;) says that some elements of this voice use assignable functions 1&2;. This means that Assignable functions have to be active for some sounds to be heard, etc. Also, did you try all keys on the keyboard? Some voices are assigned only a certain section of the keyboard.

Try to check these things, otherwise I’m sure some Yamaha guru will come to your aid soon (when they’ve woken up on the West coast!). I’m not too experienced myself!

/Cheers.

Thanks Omar....you were mostly correct.  I did try the AF buttons and got some sound, but not the core sound I had in voice mode.  interesting cuz the attractive component was the pulsating beat in the voice mode (with both AF buttons OFF)..........in pattern recording mode, I get two variations with AF buttons, but when they are off, nothing. 

Not gonna lose sleep over this.  just puzzling.  sorta like some envelope is extending it’s LFO to some UFO and modulating in chorus to my dissatisfaction.....  (couldn’t resist)..

appreciate your help and greetings from the deep south (tho formerly a yankee from CT)

Here’s what you needed to know:

1) when you are working in a SONG or PATTERN [MIXING] setup and you select a VOICE, you will inherit certain PART parameters that will automatically be applied to the VOICE. For example, whatever the Volume was in VOICE mode the PART VOLUME will be set to a default of 100, Things like the PB RANGE UP/DOWN gets reset to +2/-2, and others etc.

2) If you wish to COPY the parameters that are automatically reset to a MIXING default, you can use a function called “PARAMETER WITH VOICE” - that as the name implies, allows the VOICE to copied to the MIXING setup with its parameters in tact. (This includes an assigned ARPEGGIOS that might be active in VOICE mode).

3) A VOICE in VOICE mode that uses an arpeggio (one of the settings that gets reset when you move the Voice to a MIXING setup are the arpeggios) you must pay attention to what type of arpeggio “KEY MODE” is used. The KEY MODES are very important. If you have not noticed, not all arpeggios are NOTES (some are controller data) and some combine notes with controller data. The VOICE you have selected uses the “sort+direct” KEY MODE. This means some notes YOU play are heard directly, others are used to trigger the arpeggio pattern - usually dependent on the Velocity. For example, a PAD at low velocities ARP’d at high velocities.

So what about this VOICE?
Press [MIXING]
Select a PART that you want to use for this VOICE
Press [EDIT]
Press PART number to see its parameters
Press [F1] VOICE
Set “Param with Voice” = ON
Move the cursor up to the BANK and NUMBER and select the “SIX PACK AF1/AF2” VOICE

By turning “Parameter with Voice” to ON prior to selecting the VOICE Bank and Number the Voice will now be copied to the MIXING with its Voice mode arps and other assignments. The reason you do not hear part of the VOICE is explained by the KEY MODE parameter and the arp that was playing it.

I am always amazed and have concluded that as keyboard players we are too quick to take credit for what sounds come out. When you play this VOICE in VOICE mode you have to realize that an ARP is playing - you should also take the time to stop, look, and listen - then find out what that arp is playing in your sted - after all, it is not YOU playing all that stuff. There is an arp type called a Z-PAD arp happening (this is where, because arpeggio patterns that contain notes can be set to precise velocities and Elements can be Limited to respond to specific velocities, arpeggio patterns can be made to sound direct from some Elements and dance to the arpeggio pattern with other Elements) This created a whole new category of ARPS that have Velocity Zoned arpeggio data.

So noticing that the arp was not playing properly should have been easy to detect - even if you did not understand the KEY MODES. You inherited a setting where the arp was set to “SORT” notes normally - instead of responding to your note-ons “DIRECT”, yet other Elements would respond via Velocity provided by the arpeggio pattern.

Now that you are curious here is some reading that will demystify just what occurred when you selected this VOICE in your MIXING setup:

Parameter With Voice explained

Arpeggio Key Modes > Velocity Zone Arpeggios

Reading the manual the first time - all of this is there, but because you do not have any experience applying this stuff, it just seems like stuff you can glance over. Now that you have reason to learn about it - take that opportunity.  Hope that helps.

As usual, Bad_Mister has covered the topic very well. Setting “Parameter with Voice” ON before selecting the Voice is important, as explained. However, I’d like to add one small detail…

Make sure that the [ARPEGGIO ON/OFF] button is lit, indicating that the Arps are active. If not, press that button to light it, then STORE the mix that way.

Thanks BM and SpinDIN for your help.  This motif is humbling and the more I learn the less I realize I know about synth architecture, etc.  nonethesless i’m undeterred.  Phil’s details targeted me to solve the issue precisely.  now that i know how to set it up, my challenge is to read up on KEYS, and the links he provided above and understand WHY this worked. 

i’ve also been finding the dvd on Motif XS helpful in many respects.  thanks for expertise.