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devinci
Total Posts: 9
Joined 07-14-2011 status: Newcomer |
Hi, When recording audio using the MOX8 built-in USB interface, the level is very low. To get a decent level I then have to edit the recording by adding a gain of +10db. I can barely see the wave once the recording is completed. It is there and it sounds good but it is very low. Moving the DAW Level knob doesn’t have any effect. It is the same for you? Is there something I should do (setup/configuration)? I am using the latest Yamaha driver. Thanks |
phloid
Total Posts: 126
Joined 06-22-2011 status: Pro |
Have you been able to record other devices with different results? Is the impedance set correctly? Which DAW? |
devinci
Total Posts: 9
Joined 07-14-2011 status: Newcomer |
Hi,
I normally use Logic Pro 9 but I have installed and tried Cubase Ai5 and I had the same result.
Can someone try recording via USB with their MOX and let me know what the recording level looks like? Thanks |
Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
The graphic of the wave (we call this eye-candy) can be made any size you desire. Do not pay any attention to the size of this graphic. It is not the accurate measure of your record level. Use the meters - they will give you actual values. If you are using Cubase, the Meters have a peak hold feature that will indicate the highest level reached by that particular track. If you want to make the “eye-candy” look pretty, simply increase the graphic re-sizer slider located at the far right upper corner of the Cubase main Track view screen. You can increase the overall size of a track’s graphic with the two similar sliders at the lower right corner (along the edge of the screen). Your actual record level is a product of the velocity with which you play and the volume of the Voice. If the sound is velocity sensitive than this has a major impact on the audio level you are going to get. In general, here is a quick and easy way to increase the audio level of any sound - including the obvious method:
press [MIXING]
While on the MIXING screen
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dfahrner
Total Posts: 67
Joined 03-10-2009 status: Experienced |
I’d noticed the low level of the USB audio output too, using several other applications that support direct USB audio input (Digital Orchestrator, Awave Studio, Wave Repair)...and I had that same experience with Digital Orchestrator of not thinking the USB interface was working because the recorded track was at such a low level that it showed up as a line on the screen instead of a waveform...following BM’s advice, I maximized the levels of an organ patch (that had four elements all set to 127, an on-off volume envelope, and no touch sensitivity), and it did record at a higher level; and the Cubase meter indicated this...of course, normalization / level adjust is an option with all of these programs (Digital Orchestrator suggested multiplying the level by five!), and after doing this, I can’t hear any difference except volume, so it doesn’t seem like there’s a problem here...is it just that the MOX digital audio level was chosen to leave some headroom, particularly for multiple voice performances and sequences? Does the 24-bit digital audio output help with this? With 16 bits, I’d be concerned about boosting the level and losing resolution, but with 24 bits, a low-level signal that uses only the low 16 bits could be boosted without really losing anything...you’d still have 16-bit resolution, which after all is CD quality… df |
VladimirZ
Total Posts: 17
Joined 07-18-2011 status: Regular |
Hello!
Maybe this can help in problem:
Go to:
Volume
Check that you have - 127 (max)
Go to:
USB 1/2 Gain, USB 3/4 Gain
Check that you have +6dB (max) Sorry if this not helpful - my MOX8 arrived just yesterday… |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
i noticed this too, did you ever resove this issue? i was using my apogee duet interface with my imac before and the levels were more high then the mox interface.... |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
I did a test, when I recorded my guitar and bass thru the mox interface, the waves showed up bigger and louder then when recording the mox sounds into daw cubase, my gains were set to full.......
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Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Check what out… your guitar and bass tracks? Come on… I can’t - learning to set your set levels for recording MOX parts to audio is perhaps a little advanced but it is not that difficult Please see my earlier post for information on how to do this. I bet if the guitar or bass was not loud enough, you figured out how to turn the volume up at the source (on the guitar or on the bass). You just did not use the volume of the A/D PART, you actually knew how to adjust the guitar’s volume, and the bass’ volume. In the post above, I gave instructions on how to turn up the VOICE at the source. Please, you “check it out” :-) Your OUTPUT LEVEL (gain) is not set to full… I cannot see it but I’m sure it is not… and if it is and you still cannot get enough level, then your velocity is too weak (is the Voice you are playing velocity sensitive? what velocities are you sending). Have you turned the VOICE’s OUTPUT LEVEL Volume parameter up - as outlined in my post above? If you have done all of this and you are still not getting enough level, please tell us what VOICE it is, specifically, and we’ll send you a recording of it with more than enough level :-) |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
Hi Bad mister, thank you for the reply i have tried what you explianed in the instructions but i had no luck, i guess i must be doing somthing wrong...... |
Anton
Total Posts: 169
Joined 08-26-2002 status: Pro |
I have the same low output in my DAW when I am using a microphone. Checked everything and I am sure I set it all right at the max. Maybe this is something that can be adjusted in an update? Seems I am not the only one with this problem. |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
No the mic input works good, all you have to do is on the mox is just adjust the input to mic, its probably set to line input.... Its just when im recording the mox into cubase I have that problem but recording mic/guitar are good… |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
No the mic input works good, all you have to do is on the mox is just adjust the input to mic, its probably set to line input.... Its just when im recording the mox into cubase I have that problem but recording mic/guitar are good… |
cloud777
Total Posts: 181
Joined 06-04-2004 status: Pro |
ow yeah i forgot to tell you to when recording with ur sm58 make shure you make a mono audio track in cubase and set ur input from the mox to mic....i just did a test with a sm58 on a mono track audio in cubase and works fine just turn ur gain all the way up on the mox…
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Anton
Total Posts: 169
Joined 08-26-2002 status: Pro |
I found out that my old shure SM58 isn’t the best anymore. Another newer mic worked ok. So it’s the old mic causing the problems. Thanks for the help. |
Anton
Total Posts: 169
Joined 08-26-2002 status: Pro |
I found out that my old shure SM58 isn’t the best anymore. Another newer mic worked ok. So it’s the old mic causing the problems. Thanks for the help. |