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nightowlgk2
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Joined 06-22-2011 status: Regular |
I use Cubase 5 on my laptop w/ a 7200 rpm internal drive to host Ivory with MIDI on a MOTU Ultralight Hybrid Firewire normally with great results. Will the MOX handle this instrument thru usb with low latency (asio drivers), allowing me to lose the Ultralight ?? Has it been tested with VSTi plugins via USB in general? |
dcool
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Joined 11-01-2006 status: Enthusiast |
Well, it depends on how many input/output you want. MOX has only 2 stereo in/out. Also, MOTU has XLR inputs and phantom power. |
nightowlgk2
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Joined 06-22-2011 status: Regular |
Not asking about inputs or comparing “features” of MOTU. I’m asking mostly about the latency and whether this has been tried by anybody out there successfully without clicks and glitches. |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
As you may tell, your question is not at all clear. The MOX6/MOX8 come packed with two VSTi’s, Cubase AI, a USB cable and documentation. The MOX does not have firewire, it works via USB for both AUDIO and MIDI and uses a special driver Whether it will work with your MOTU Firewire device, is such a left field question… what do you want to do with Ivory and Firewire… and what do they have to do with the MOX, please explain - as if the person you are asking doesn’t know what you want to do? Whether or not you get glitches is mostly dependent on your computer and what you are asking it to do at the time. Any evaluation of that is really dependent on the specs there and compatibility with the devices you are connecting. With knowledge of what computer it is anyone’s guess. the speed that the drive (7200rpm) is not enough information. That is fairly standard for streaming audio. The MOX will put no demans on your computer as far as streaming audio - it has its own CPU for that!!! |
nightowlgk2
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Joined 06-22-2011 status: Regular |
The subject asks about playing Ivory.. I should have said in the message will the MOX handle this instrument(IVORY) thru usb with low latency (asio drivers), allowing me to lose (replace) the Ultralight in certain situations ?? My laptop is set at 256 samples latency and Ivory plays fine thru the MOTU Ultralite Hybrid via firewire....when I use the USB cable, it is a bit more glitchy. So, it usually comes down to the drivers (are they asio, for Cubase?)and the quality of the USB “interface”. |
Bad_Mister
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Well, please let us know. Since Steinberg invented ASIO, you can be assured the driver is ASIO. I don’t know why Ivory would be any different from any other VSTi… but since I’ve never tried it, I cannot comment. Why would/does “Ivory” glitch when you use USB? Is it a memory hog, that is, does it use a lot of your computer’s resources to run?
Can the MOX as an audio interface play VSTi’s: YES
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nightowlgk2
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Joined 06-22-2011 status: Regular |
I can safely say that Ivory is the 2nd most demanding Streaming Vsti that I know of, next to Play/Quantum Leap Piano. You need low latency to have it feel right, and that puts strain on the disk and processor. Knowing how it sometimes struggles with MOTU/USB on my laptop at 256 ( compared to firewire), I would hope to match or better that with the MOX. I will test it soon as I get my hands on the MOX I ordered from Musiccenter of Kenosha. |
Frank
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Joined 11-05-2002 status: Guru |
the concrete question is what buffer latency have the asio driver ?
less or 128 sampels is useful for real feel on ivory !!! Frank |
DavePolich
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Joined 07-27-2002 status: Guru |
The answer to your question has absolutely nothing to do with the MOX. It has everything to do with your laptop’s CPU speed, the amount of RAM on your laptop,your ASIO buffer settings, and whether you are trying to run the “full” or “light” versions of Ivory. A lower buffer setting will result in quicker response, but puts a higher strain on your laptop’s CPU, so you may get glitches. The “full” version of an Ivory piano has more sample layers, and will thus tax your hard drive more. Playing Ivory will always introduce some latency. However,if you record it as an audio track into Cubase, and then play the audio track back, the audio track should play back without latency. Minimum requirement for Ivory is pretty much an Intel Core 2 Duo (or equivalent) 2.0Ghz. A 2.6Ghz or higher is better. You need at least 2GB of RAM as well. 4GB is better. |
Frank
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Joined 11-05-2002 status: Guru |
the mox is also an audio interface,
the pc you right needs to be good but..
so we all now soundcards quality is different,
so see this question please what latency without gliches is right,
greetings Frank |
Bad_Mister
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As I said, “Let us know.” |