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5pinDIN
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http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/index.php/viewthread/453666/, and some other things recently discussed here, got me thinking about something I had previously noticed. For a Voice, there are some control settings listed near the bottom of the screen such as MW, RB, etc. Among them are details of the Assignable Function button settings, AF1 and AF2. If an AF is set to control parameters such as volume, pitch, LFO depth, etc., that will be indicated, as in this example:
However, with many voices the screen just shows the AFs as:
If you find yourself with some free time, I’d suggest exploring what the AF buttons do on any voice that displays “- - - -”. (Or you could look at all the Elements of the voice while in Edit mode.) You might be surprised. By the way, not all are set up to latch the AF—some are momentary, and the button has to be held down. Examples:
--Less subtle--
--Obvious--
--Very Obvious--
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dereknae
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man,I’ve been trying to understand that function for about 3 years now..Ceasersound makes voices in the sound section and often the AF1 and 2 are left blank and I always wanted to know how to assign things to it and the process of doing it..Your post did give me alittle understanding of it but I need more.. |
Bad_Mister
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Please see the support area for the following articles and tutorials on XA CONTROL: Tweak of the Week: Exploring “Vintage ‘74” Advanced Applications (Tutorial) Assigning Controller Functions |
5pinDIN
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Would there be interest in a table that listed factory preset voices where depressing an AF button adds elements with XA, etc? The list would show the affected elements, and cover voices where the display indicates “- - - -” for AF1 and/or AF2. Besides revealing which voices can do “more than meets the eye”, knowing which element(s) become active with AF allows corresponding sliders to be used to control their volume without guessing or using the edit function. |
VikasSharma
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I, for one, definitely am interested :-) The “- - - -” on the display just indicates that the corresponding Control (AF1, AF2, etc.) is NOT ASSIGNED as a Source in the Controller Set Assignment to some Destination. It does not mean that pressing AF1, AF2, etc. would have no effect. That can only be known by either going to the Element EDIT screen or by actually auditioning the Voice… ...unless, of course, you have a table giving you such information :-) BTW, the screen on the XF has been changed to only indicate whether the particular Control is assigned or not. See the following thread: |
synthlogic
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Add me to the list as well. |
5pinDIN
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Yes, the problem is that “- - - -” leaves you wondering. Appending “AF1” and/or “AF2” to the Voice name, as is sometimes done, still doesn’t reveal what happens when an AF button is pressed.
Thanks for the link. It indeed seems that the XF display isn’t an improvement over the XS in regard to informing of Element usage related to AF button operation. Although the table I made is based on the XS Voice Presets, the info in it should apply to the XF. I’ll need to clean it up and format it a bit, but a presentable version should be ready in a day or so. |
5pinDIN
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As offered and requested - the ZIP unpacks to a 5-page DOC file: [ EDIT: See my January 09, 2012 post in this thread for updated file.] File Attachments
XS-XF AF1-AF2 Elements.zip (File Size: 15KB - Downloads: 322) |
VikasSharma
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Thanks, for sharing the result of your hard work!
Regards,
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5pinDIN
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You’re welcome, Vikas. I don’t anticipate it, but please let me know of any discrepancies between what I listed (as found in the XS) and what’s in the XF. |
cmayhle
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Same for me 5pinDIN! |
pax-eterna
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Yes, a big +1...Thanks for the sharing your hard work!! Will save a LOT of random key pressing LOL!! |
stoneb3
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Thanks a ton 5pinDIN. I too have noticed this for some time. I must take time and read the links. I think of noticed this with some of Dave’s libraries as well.
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dereknae
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Thank you for your time and work...this is very useful.. |
jwk123
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Thanks a lot 5pinDIN. A brilliant, useful list. |
5pinDIN
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Thanks for the kind words, folks. I’m happy to share. The way I see it, the time it took me to do the work initially benefitted only one person (myself). By sharing, those hours hopefully benefit other people as well, making the time spent seem more worthwhile. So, thanks for downloading! |