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Posted on: September 02, 2010 @ 03:34 PM
yoniBprime
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Motif xs mlan mpc5000 sync midi with cubase
ok i have audio from mpc to in motif(mlan audio interface function) midi in an out from mpc to motif (mlan midi interface function) and mlan from motif to pc
i have all the settings that i need on the mpc to master cubase and all the settings on cubase to slave midi to mpc.
only problem is on motif midi settings
when the midi in\out is “MLAN” i get the mpc controling the cubase transport, but not the mpc midi playing the motif sound
when i switch to “midi” i get the sound from the motif played by mpx midi but the firewire is off so i dont get midi to the cubase…

anyone can help? please?

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Posted on: September 03, 2010 @ 12:51 AM
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I would say that what you are experiencing is correct.

Let’s start with the XS.
It has three MIDI modes (midi, usb or mLAN).
Midi = Your XS is set to communicate directly (and only) thru the MIDI ports in the rear. Midi communications to a computer/daw thru usb or mLAN should not work in this mode.
Usb = Your XS communicates thru the USB port (connected to your computer/daw).
mLAN = Yor XS communicates thru the mLAN/FW port (connected to your computer/daw).

By selecting USB or mLAN mode the XS MIDI ports will act as an interface to your computer/daw. So when you play on your XS keybord it sends midi messages thru usb/mLAN to your computer/daw which routes it back to the XS midi ports and finaly to the equipment that is attached to your XS MIDI out.
You will need a computer/daw that routes MIDI messages if you want to use the XS midi ports in USB or mLAN mode.

The same goes the other way.
If you connect something to the XS midi in (in USB or mLAN mode) the MIDI ports act as an interface to your computer/daw. In your case the computer/daw must act as an midi message router and forward these midi messages back to the XS thru USB or mLAN.

By simplifying it, you need to visualize your computer/daw as the center. MIDI messages goes there and can be routed/forwarded to an available midi interface.

There’s a good section in your XS Owners Manual that starts at p.43

/M

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Posted on: September 03, 2010 @ 04:03 AM
yoniBprime
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so if i use motif as midi interface its will not function as the sound modul?
so the motif is not the solution for midi interface? i need to buy another midi interface?
all i want to do is transmit midi from mpc to cubase and the audio thru motif and to pc so i can record all together to cubase.

how do i do that? and why when i choose mlan its disables the midi conection to mpc?

any ideas?
thnx ahead

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Posted on: September 03, 2010 @ 04:46 AM
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so if i use motif as midi interface its will not function as the sound modul?

This is not true. The XS tone generator and the midi ports in the rear are two different midi interfaces/ports in your daw. You need to select and configure the ports/interfaces in your daw.

so the motif is not the solution for midi interface?

Yes it is! It will act as a tone generator AND a midi interface =)
You get both! Your XS can act as any other midi interface.

i need to buy another midi interface?

Not neccessary. The key here is not the ammount of midi ports/interfaces, it is about midi routing to and from different interfaces.

For ref please check this article
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/support/view/motif_xs_ysfw_setup_windows

You might have noticed that there are several Motif XS midi interfaces/ports available in your computer/daw.

When connecting the MOTIF XS to a computer using a USB cable or an IEEE1394 cable, the MIDI ports are defined as follows:

Port 1
The tone generator block in the MOTIF XS can recognize and use only this port. When playing the MOTIF XS as a tone generator from the
external MIDI instrument or computer, you should set the MIDI Port to 1 on the connected MIDI device or computer.

Port 2
This port is used to control the DAW software on the computer from the MOTIF XS by using the Remote Control feature.

Port 3
This port is used as the MIDI Thru Port. The MIDI data received over Port 3 via the USB TO HOST or mLAN connector will be re-transmitted to an external MIDI device via the MIDI OUT connector. The MIDI data received over Port 3 via the MIDI IN connector will be retransmitted to an external device (computer, etc.) via the USB TO HOST or mLAN connector.

The key would be to route midi messages in your computer/daw from one channel/interface to another channel/interface. In this case the route would be between Motif XS port 1 and port 3 for all or specific midi channels.

I never use the setup you describe. I don’t use several sequencers or controllers x-linked in my daw environment. Usually i have one master keyboard/controller connected to the daw. My midi instruments are connected to the daw usually only to receive midi messages.
This is a simple setup, but it works =)

/M

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Posted on: September 05, 2010 @ 04:40 AM
yoniBprime
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thnx for the answer but im sorry.

when midi in\out on MLAN the midi out and in conection to the MPC dosent work. (the MPC controls transport on cubase via MLAN, but cant get the midi notes to the motif.

and when midi in\out is on MIDI the midi notes from MPC playes the MOTIFs tone but its dosent let the midi triger the transport on cubase

for sure there is no way to use MPC as sequenser with MOTIF as tone generator at sane time sync transport on cubase with MPC master.

ofcourse until somone will proof me wrong!
thnx ahead
yoni

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Posted on: September 05, 2010 @ 10:24 AM
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Sorry, I cannot understand your original post or I would have tried to help you. Please take your time and explain what you would like to do.

Motif xs mlan mpc5000 sync midi with cubase
ok i have audio from mpc to in motif(mlan audio interface function) midi in an out from mpc to motif (mlan midi interface function) and mlan from motif to pc
i have all the settings that i need on the mpc to master cubase and all the settings on cubase to slave midi to mpc.
only problem is on motif midi settings
when the midi in\out is “MLAN” i get the mpc controling the cubase transport, but not the mpc midi playing the motif sound
when i switch to “midi” i get the sound from the motif played by mpx midi but the firewire is off so i dont get midi to the cubase…

If I am understanding this the MPC is the master clock, and Cubase is slaving to that clock, you don’t say what type of clock you are using. Just that you have “all the settings that i need...” What are those?

Because as far as I know Cubase does not slave to MIDI clock, so what are you using?

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Posted on: September 06, 2010 @ 02:46 AM
yoniBprime
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MTC
and MMC on

actuali when i synced the editor on pc i managed to control transport on pc from mpc and allso when i open midi chanell i get the audio feom motif (played by mpc midi notes) but i get all the midi channels played on one voice( cant get each midi channel to play only its voice)
i choose 1 on midi chanel and all midi channels together played from mpc triger channel 1 on editor. and so on 2 3

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