Hi - There’s a question on programming my Motif Classic I posted in another section of the forum that hasn’t gotten any answers in the last few days, I thought I’d post here as well in case it’s the better spot - would anybody be kind enough to pop over and answer on that thread?

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/index.php/viewthread/443357/

Thanks!

Page 163 of your manual: “Pan”, “Part”.

;JOOP!

sciuriware - 22 May 2009 02:45 AM

Page 163 of your manual: “Pan”, “Part”.

;JOOP!

Thanks for the reply, Joop!

We must have different owner’s manuals ... I’m at work so I downloaded the one from the Yamaha website, and I see that page 162 is the first page of “Performance Play” mode, not Pan-Part.

In my manual that is page 172, and it is after reading that I’ve got the question of how the panning works in a Performance.

I guess it must be kind of obvious but I’m missing it, sorry, but - if a Voice is in stereo and panned center ... if I use that voice as a Part of a Performance and then pan it hard left:

a) does any of the Part come out the right speaker?
b) If the Part doesn’t come out of the right speaker, is it the whole voice that comes out of the left speaker, or just the part of the voice that would have come out of the left speaker based on the voice edit>>pan setting?

Thanks ;Joop!!

I really wonder what manual you downloaded; certainly not the Classic manual.

If you downloaded the Mo or MM manual, drop it and use the correct manual.

;JOOP!

>>> a) does any of the Part come out the right speaker?
I didn’t try this but in Song mixing the other speaker goes silent for that part.

>>> b) If the Part doesn’t come out of the right speaker, is it the whole voice that ...
Again I have to guess, but I got the feeling that in Song mixing
just one side is dropped and NOT added to the other channel.

(hard to prove ...)

;JOOP!

sciuriware - 22 May 2009 01:38 PM

I really wonder what manual you downloaded; certainly not the Classic manual.

If you downloaded the Mo or MM manual, drop it and use the correct manual.

;JOOP!

Hi ;Joop! - Here’s the front page http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/synth/MOTIFE1.pdf , I think it’s the Classic? I’ll compare with my hard copy when I get home ...

But, in any case, regardless of the page/manual, could you give me a pointer or two please?

Thanks!

Strange I downloaded the latest Classic manual and there it is on page 172; you’re right.

Any way, I think it is clear: set the panning for the Part
you want (far left = L64) and mark Voice Pan if you want
to take Voice’s own panning into account.

;JOOP!

P.S.: I don’t have a Classic, so I can’t exercise this.

sciuriware - 22 May 2009 02:35 PM

Strange I downloaded the latest Classic manual and there it is on page 172; you’re right.

Any way, I think it is clear: set the panning for the Part
you want (far left = L64) and mark Voice Pan if you want
to take Voice’s own panning into account.

;JOOP!

P.S.: I don’t have a Classic, so I can’t exercise this.

Mark voice pan ... to OFF , is that right if I want everything to come out identically between the right and left channels of the Motif?

Sorry for the basic nature of the questions, but sometimes I’m as thick as a brick.

Can I ask you another basic question please - what is the easiest way to check on the Motif whether a voice is in stereo or in mono? My monitoring system at home is not great, and it’s sometimes hard for me to tell by listening, hopefully there’s a display that indicates that?

And, if a voice itself is in stereo (like a piano voice), and I wanted to change it to mono, have we just been talking about how to do that? [I know I could change everything to mono by using the L/Mono output, but I’ve heard that it introduces phase problems and sounds a bit off, and besides which that would not give the flexibility to make maybe just one voice mono and keep the others stereo.]

Thanks for your patience, :JOOP!

I can only direct you back to the manual: Mark Off means:

the panning of the Voice by itself is not taken into account:
the voice is panned to the centre again and depends on the panning
in the Performance.

About Stereo: I have no idea; I’m glad that the stereo voices
are stereo: they sound good.

;JOOP!

sciuriware - 22 May 2009 04:07 PM

I can only direct you back to the manual: Mark Off means:

the panning of the Voice by itself is not taken into account:
the voice is panned to the centre again and depends on the panning
in the Performance.

About Stereo: I have no idea; I’m glad that the stereo voices
are stereo: they sound good.

;JOOP!

OK, ;JOOP!, you are definitely the man (the ;JOOP!ster!) for helping me out like this, thanks so much.

The reason I’m thinking of collapsing it to mono is that I’m thinking about what it would take to change my PA output to mono, someone very experienced on a another forum suggested that would be lots better from the audience point of view.

Thanks again!!