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scotch
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Since she’s apparently never going away, we might as well have a little more fun with her--and, besides, I need to test the “invisible replies” thing; this will be my first thread on the new site. From, yes, People Magazine:
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After talking about sex on The Tyra Banks Show, Johnston – the 18-year-old father of Bristol Palin’s baby – was hit with a blistering response from Bristol’s family. “Bristol did not even know Levi was going on the show. We’re disappointed that Levi and his family, in a quest for fame, attention, and fortune, are engaging in flat-out lies, gross exaggeration, and even distortion of their relationship,” says the statement from the Palin family rep, Meghan Stapleton. “Bristol’s focus will remain on raising Tripp, completing her education, and advocating abstinence,” the statement continues. “It is unfortunate that Levi finds it more appealing to exploit his previous relationship with Bristol than to contribute to the well being of the child.” The statement ends, saying, “Bristol realizes now that she made a mistake in her relationship and is the one taking responsibility for their actions.” In the show airing April 6, Johnston tells Tyra Banks that he believes Sarah Palin knew he and Bristol, 18, were having sex when they lived under her roof. “I’m pretty sure she probably knew. Moms are pretty smart,” Johnston says. The couple, who were high school sweethearts, planned to wed after graduating – but ended up splitting earlier this year. At the time, Johnston told Good Morning America that he needed to mature before getting married.
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My favorite bit: “Bristol’s focus will remain on...advocating abstinence.” |
Wastrel
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“My favorite bit: “Bristol’s focus will remain on...advocating abstinence.†Well she’s obviously more of an advocate than a practitioner ;) Bob |
DavePolich
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You can take the trash out of the trailer but you can’t take the
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Yeah...just look at John Edwards! Ha Ha!! Now there’s some pond scum for you. John E’s famous last words: “I’m not coming out of this bathroom until you go away!” The reporters actually have this on video as well. Its beyond belief! His behavior is right up there, well not quite, with Ted Kennedy as he ran away from the scene of a car accident while his girlfriend slowly drowned to death inside the submerged car. Yeah, you liberals, you definately have a corner on the high moral road! |
DavePolich
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Pathetic and immoral behavior is sad no matter who does it. But...your response was classic “Quest” - not that we’d expect any different. There is no one righteous, not even one - check your scripture, Quest. |
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Dave, We?...what is it? group think with you guys? Do you all march in lockstep as well? I think you may have missed my point. I am not exhaulting myself here...just pointing out the arrogance of those who feel “better than” others to the point of dragging them down. I’m speaking of those who like to use terms like “trailer trash” to refer to another human being. |
SpongeBob
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Now that’s funny! (responding to quest’s first post) ...and on the subject of Sarah Palin… |
Way_ne
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Yeah, but only the trashy ones. |
sciuriware
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SpongeBob, I’m a fan of Eminem, but this video is not for my region,
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DavePolich
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The word is spelled “exalting"…
At least Edwards admitted to his moral failure. Something that Sara
The Abramoff bribery scandal (remember that one?) involved mostly
Of course, Huey Long and his Dixiecrats were abominable. Clinton
It’s the hypocrisy (on either side) that bugs me. Speaking up about
Do I still feel that the Palin family is basically trailer trash?
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TheDukester
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As usual,the “Leftists” have to rail on Sarah Palin in an effort not to just diminish her influences on the Conservatives,but trash (no pun intended) her family. I remember when my daughters were growing up I had to resign myself to what we taught them and trusted they would do the right thing because I couldn’t get them to leave the P***y on the dresser. They travel with it. Over the years,I’ve know several Ministers and Reverends who had daughters that behaved outside of their up bringing in the church. It happens and it can happen to anyone. Obviously, Bristol was pregnant before Governor Palin was nominated for Vice Presidential running mate. To “me” this is consistant with the failings of John McCain and his campaign. It does scare the brand of Sarah Palin for future considerations on a national level,but doesn’t dismiss her presence totally. Like Quest said,and I will go further,Edwards, Kennedy and Barney Frank (though an open homosexual) have on record transgressions that seem to go ignored or not attached to their character anywhere near as much as the issues with the Palin family. Two factors come in to play. Because the “Left” doesn’t claim or attach itself to any “standards” or “moral committments” that were established outside of themselves, there are no “violations” to any moral code. Thus, the indiscretions of anyone on that side of the socio/political spectrum is not “guilty” of anything. No “established standard”. Those who do have a “standard”,particularly based on Judeo/Christian principles,get dragged over the cut glass. We do have standards based in Judeo/Christian values,but, like everyone else, we are still human beings and are subject to the same temptations that everyone else is subjected to. The difference here is, “we” do understand that this is a “walk” and we must offer our best efforts to overcome the temptations. Sometimes it works...sometimes it doesn’t, and DaveP, there was “1” who was guiltless,but I digress. The factor that really interests me is that the “Left” is still afraid of what Sarah Palin did. Woke up the Conservatives in the country. That,coupled with the direction the country is going in now,has brought out opposition that it will be difficult to ignore. Trashing Sarah Palin will not stem the flow of the opposition to the policies that are being ramrodded through that go against the nature and spirit of this country, outlined in our Constitution. Bringing up the trials in the Palin family is not enough sand in the eyes to distract from the controversies that are being imposed.
This post is a mere trivial item over the big picture. It only reflects the smallness of the thinking of the initiater and the shallowness of the perceptions of the bigger picture. It presents something of very little value. Obviously, if People Magazine and Tyra Banks are the “news breakers”. For someone who has demonstrated such broad and dynamic intelligence in a wide variety of areas in academia, to have such a narrow perception of the governmental and political landscape.
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Wastrel
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Good point. If you don’t stand for anything, you can’t very well be held accountable for not living up to it. Hence the vague, amorphous agenda of well intentioned sounding things that the left hobbles together in lieu of a cogent, focused platform. The conservatives - particularly the moral crusaders - on the other hand, basically paint cross hairs on their foreheads when they take a firm stand on an issue. Their detractors wait for the slightest transgression to pounce on since everyone hates a hypocrite. It’s good to see you back in the fray Earl. Bob |
MoGut
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Oh my! We could have a field day with this comment. Im biting my tongue on religion in this new forum. Although I dont know how much longer I can hold out anymore. :) |
boulez
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My knowledge of American poitical history is sadly lacking but I do know that, regardless of party, Abe Lincoln was essentially a liberal in the true ‘Age of Enlightenment’ tradition of Thomas Locke et al whose views Lincoln espoused strongly. The work ‘liberal’ is used in a pejorative fashion in America which seems extremely strange this side of the pond. It cannot be denied that this unthinking usage is profoundly ironic for a country whose principle tenet is freedom and the pursuit thereof. The etymological connection between liberal and liberty seems to be entirly ignored. Listening to some (and only some) of the views expressed, one wonders whether our Gallic cousins should not have presented America with the Statue of Bigotry? It also strikes me as hypocritical in the extreme to criticise liberalism (blindly and ignorantly that is), when the emancipation of many African Americans from that disgraceful regime little more than one hundred years ago was hardly going to be brought about by the antecedents of today’s Republican party stalworts - now was it? it would seem that the very liberation which, had it not transpired, would prevent many members of this forum from expressing themselves today, came to fruition due to the so called ‘wishy-washy’ notions at which many beneficiaries of that liberation now scoff. B PS I can’t remember who said it but I don’t think it woiuld be too unpleasant being dragged over “cut glass” (sic). I have a beautiful decanter in cut glass, the edges of whose facets are quite smooth due to the beautiful craftmanship. By the same token, one can only imagine the pain experienced were one to be dragged over ‘broken’ glass. Perhaps that was what the poster meant? |
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In reply to: [Boulez]"Abe Lincoln was essentially a liberal in the true ‘Age of Enlightenment’ tradition of Thomas Locke et al whose views Lincoln espoused strongly”. The following is from A. Lincoln’s 1858 debate with Stephen Douglass...As Honest Abe declared: “I will say that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.” So, what do you think Boulez.....Is that LIBERAL enough for ya??
From: Thomas E Woods Jr PhD
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TheDukester
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It was I who made the comment about the “broken glass”. It would seem that those who have been “caught” violating their Judeo/Christian principles must suffer here on earth among the detractors of religious faith as well as their fate at the hand of God.Nevermind their conscious if they are true believers,but that’s another story. I will no doubt get some flames for this. Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclaimation wasn’t worth the paper it was written on. He had no juristiction over Slaves/Blacks in the south. The south had seceded from the Union,a Constitutional right but I digress. Lincoln was more concerned about preserving the Union than he was about “freeing slaves”,but again,I digress. In 1960, John F Kennedy was a “Liberal”. By today’s standards,at least by his economic policy and action,he would be considered Conservative.The word “liberal” seems to keep evolving liberally in its meaning and intent. It is true, this is a country whose origins are rooted in freedom and liberty and certainly many other countries would have had the heads of some of the commentators in this forum for their expression. Our Liberties and Freedoms are guarrenteed in our Constitution...a set of “laws” designed to protect our freedoms. This makes us a Republic...a democracy that is tempered by laws. Otherwise each one’s freedoms and liberties could be infringed upon by the next persons freedoms and liberties. Freedom and libertiy are not autonomous. What “I” percieve,as a result of “liberalism” and how it has run amuck is the failure of “some” to acknowledge the wisdom of that Constitution and how and why it was formed. The glaring example is the “Freedom ‘OF’ Religion” turning into Freedom “FROM” Religion ( and there is NO seperation of “Church and State” in the Constitution). Liberalism seeks to dismiss the Constitution as a foundation for this country and the law. I see it as a sequence...Get rid of God...you can “change” the Constitution. Nevermind that it was the basis for a country that in a mere 200+ years progressed and prospered over countries that have been around for thousands of years. Nevermind it has gotten in position to offer assistance to nations all over the world with finances. Nevermind that if it weren’t for the US, Europe would all be doing the “Goose Step” and since has been called to kick ass while they “hold our coats”. Through our Constitution as foundation, these United States served as an example for all who cared to see or cared to become a part of the great potentials of men when offered the chance and the freedoms of grow,excel,create and prosper. Even with the situation now economically, “this” is the country, if you had to be poor,would want to be poor in.
Bob...I’m not really “returning to the fray”. But from time to time I will air my “conservative” views when the “oh so enlightened” liberals attack conservatives and conservatism. They would like to “think” that they stand high up now and that “Change has come to America”. It is a “change” that will make us just like those countries thousands of years old that our founders left and fought for the freedom that this country has experienced and enjoyed up till now. Liberalism is a that is untempered by any laws,rules or foundation that will serve “all” and allow them to enjoy the fruits of their efforts and will end up robbing us of the “chance” at individual achievements that have built this country.Barak Obama and his administration and all of his associates over the years don’t like this country. Ironically,the nature of this country affords them the “freedom” to change it. But it is a selfish notion and motive.
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