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mr_piano
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Joined 03-07-2017 status: Newcomer |
I’ve upgraded to the XF from the ES but there are waveforms I like better on the ES. The nylon guitar on the ES uses a waveform that I cant find on the XF. My question: Is it possible to transfer some of the waveforms from the ES to the XF? Thanks in advance if you know the answer and extra thanks if you can give me an idea of how to do it. THANK you. - tony |
cmayhle
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Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
No, you won’t be able to transfer a native WAVEFORM from the ES to the XF...so I guess I won’t be getting the extra thanks offered for the “how-to”! You can delve into it a bit more by going to This Thread...and This One, also. |
mr_piano
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Joined 03-07-2017 status: Newcomer |
Thanks, I understand why Yamaha doesn’t want to give away waveforms they’ve developed. Didn’t think of that. Maybe they’ll bring back some of those good waveforms in a future keyboard. until then, i have an ES rack to use with the XF. I think Yamaha made a mistake - if they have all this extra room for waveforms, why did they have to eliminate so many and make upgrading such a chore. thanks again for saving me some time and wasted effort. |
5pinDIN
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Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
I hesitate to make this suggestion, but if you so badly want a particular Waveform, why not grab a few samples of it with the XF? You certainly aren’t cheating Yamaha out of anything, since you own an ES. Turn off the ES effects, and set up the envelopes so the entire sample plays. Get a sufficient number of samples to cover the note range as in the ES. It will take some effort to get it right, but you’ll become more familiar with sampling on the XF in the process. |
keyman@usa.net
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Joined 07-28-2006 status: Experienced |
I may not understand the precise Yamaha terminology but I migrated sounds from my ES to my XF. The example would be the “Live Scat” sound. It was not native to my ES. I purchased it and loaded and used it in the ES. When I purchased my first XF I loaded my ES ‘all’ file and that “Live Scat” voice loaded into the XF. My XF’s have Flash boards installed.
Welcome clarifications understanding and terminology so we can all benefit. Cheers |
keyman@usa.net
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Joined 07-28-2006 status: Experienced |
Another example would be the ES “vocolead” sound. I migrated it to my XF as well.
Clarification: I copied the “vocolead” voice into a USR sound bank on the ES then saved an ‘all’ file.
Looking forward to learning.
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cmayhle
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keyman@usa.net, the OP is interested in moving a native WAVEFORM (audio sample data) from the ES to the XF, which lives in the ROM of the ES and thus is read-only. You are referring to moving a USER VOICE from the ES to the XF...which as you know is easily done...but that does not relocate a copy of the original ROM WAVEFORM to the XF, as desired by the OP. |
keyman@usa.net
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Joined 07-28-2006 status: Experienced |
cmayhle, In the 2nd example “vocolead” is listed in the ES data list. That would seem to indicate it is a factory voice.
Cheers! |
cmayhle
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Yes, you can SAVE...and relocate to another machine...a factory PRESET VOICE, such as “vocolead”, by STORING a copy to a USER location and SAVING to an ALL or ALL VOICE file (As you have done). What you cannot do is relocate a factory WAVEFORM associated with that VOICE...which is what the OP was hoping to do. |
5pinDIN
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Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
I’ll try to help a bit with Yamaha terminology. I hope this clarifies things somewhat…
Sample:
Waveform:
Voice:
The Synthesizer Parameter Manual (http://download.yamaha.com/file/48523) should help with further definitions. |
keyman@usa.net
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Joined 07-28-2006 status: Experienced |
Thank you cmayhle & 5pinDIN Cheers! |