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Markando68
Total Posts: 10
Joined 11-22-2014 status: Newcomer |
I’m a newbie to this programming. Basically, I have a performance with PaRT 1 PIANO and Part 2 strings. I want to fade the strings in and out via FC2. I’m close. I can fade the strings in on FC2 with it with Rcw sw Expression checked and Control change. BUT, my FC1 pedal for the piano on part 1 is not operative unless FC2 is at a minimum volume. No volume in Part 2 then nothing in part 1 FC1. I know this is something simple but I’m just not getting it. I’ve read several tutorials but I’m missing something. I’ll buy you a beer if this I can solve this before tomorrow. |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
I’m more familiar with the XS and XF than I am with the Classic, but this should be applicable anyway… In Performance Mode, all Parts are on the same MIDI channel. Since CC (Control Change) MIDI messages are Channel messages, if the Motif gets a Volume message with a value of 0(zero) for Part 2, it will therefore also affect Part 1 of the Performance. In multitimbral modes (Song and Pattern) the Parts by default are on separate MIDI channels. Copying your Performance to a Song or Pattern should allow the two foot controllers to have independent control. See http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/468126/ |
stoneb3
Total Posts: 851
Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
To achieve this in Performance Mode you will need to edit and store your string voice to a User Location.
In voice mode press edit, while in common edit press output, set to zero.
Return to Performance Mode, edit your performance to include your edited string Voice.
Stone |
Markando68
Total Posts: 10
Joined 11-22-2014 status: Newcomer |
My desire is to have parts 1 and 2 volumes to be totally independent of each other so expression of the total performance is counter to my objective. Is using expression a global application? Should I uncheck control change? |
5pinDIN
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Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
Did you read my previous post, above? |
stoneb3
Total Posts: 851
Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
Unchecking the expression box on the string part will give you separate control of each part independent of each pedal. No need to uncheck control change.
I’ve provided a scenario of how this is accomplished in Performance Mode as this was the query of your original post(s). 5pinDin has provided an excellent alternate route which would suit your needs as well. It may be of benefit to explore each and gain some familiarity with their functions. Both have merit but the use of Song/Pattern mode would not result in the loss of a User Voice location.
Stone |
5pinDIN
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Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
Sorry, it’s obvious I need to get more sleep… Forget what I wrote about using Song/Pattern modes, because while the Parts would be on separate MIDI channels (resolving the foot controller conflict), the keyboard can’t control the two Parts as a layer that way. If the Parts are set to the same Receive Channel to achieve a layer, the original problem recurs. |
stoneb3
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Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
Never gave it a thought, and I’ve had plenty of sleep. Aye. |
jazz.preest
Total Posts: 263
Joined 06-06-2013 status: Enthusiast |
Along the lines of Stone’s solution, here’s a post on how to do it for a later Motif version; don’t know if this works for the Classic: http://www.motifator.com/index.php/archive/viewthread/168709/ Wondering why using a Song/Pattern Mixing and two Zones in Master mode won’t work? (Don’t have a Motif and two sweep pedals, so can’t test). Also, if you can’t find a satisfactory solution, you can always shell out $350 for the Yamaha MFC10. |
Markando68
Total Posts: 10
Joined 11-22-2014 status: Newcomer |
Ok. Getting my objective by creating User Voices is what was explained and I’ve never attempted to do that so my learning curve is extending a lot more now. I’ll try it but the ‘not sure if theis works for the Classic’ gives me some hesitancy. I guess its one way to ascertain if i should upgrade my classic to a model where this seemingly popular edit objective would be a much easier pathway. |