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jammer01
Total Posts: 6
Joined 06-16-2013 status: Newcomer |
Has anyone been able to create a usable Double Leslie effect? I made a few feeble attempts and have not gotten anything I would really use. I have created some on another keyboard type and it really helps out the organ patches. |
cmayhle
Total Posts: 3116
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
Have you considered getting some organ VOICES that use double rotary effects already? That’s what K-sounds Organimation does. I purchased it, and recommend it. You can find discussion of the K-sounds approach to the extra-thick Leslie in This Thread. |
jammer01
Total Posts: 6
Joined 06-16-2013 status: Newcomer |
Thanks for the reply. I figured there would be some discussion around this topic but could not find anything. The thread pretty much answered my questions. I do not have the Organimation library and sounds like I need to pick that one up to see how their double leslies work. As the thread indicated, I had to borrow from another effect and then lost character. |
MrMotif
Total Posts: 1122
Joined 10-02-2002 status: Administrator |
What exactly do you mean by ‘double’ Leslie? Do you mean just the basic two speaker system ‘in’ a Leslie cabinet or actually two Leslies? |
jammer01
Total Posts: 6
Joined 06-16-2013 status: Newcomer |
Two leslies or in essence, two rotary effects instead of just the one. I have heard/seen this on other keyboard models and it has a fuller leslie sim. |
spike88
Total Posts: 154
Joined 06-24-2008 status: Pro |
Just an idea but could you introduce the effect called ‘panning delay’ which will alternate between the 2 stereo channels? |
jammer01
Total Posts: 6
Joined 06-16-2013 status: Newcomer |
I went ahead and purchased the KSounds Organimation bank based on the recommendation above. The problem I had in trying to create two rotary leslies was that I lost the distortion effect I wanted due to the number of effects limitations. In the Organimation bank, he sets up two rotary leslies and then uses the Master Effect section to introduce the distortion effect (had not thought about the Master Effect idea). Overall this creates a bit fuller leslie and also just enough distortion to give it some bite. This is closer to what I was hoping to do. This was well worth the purchase for me. The double leslie effect with the distortion is better than what I had come up with but not quite as dramatic or full as I have done on my Kurz PC3K organs. |
cmayhle
Total Posts: 3116
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
I’m not sure if you have had a chance to experiment with the AS 1/2 knobs yet, but they have a lot of power to add Drama and Fullness. On most VOICES they are set kind of midway, with a lot of headroom to make a very dramatic rotary adjustment. From the Organimation User’s Manual, a couple of excerpts: Voice Mode In Voice mode, Organimation XS offers “solo voices” and “component voices.” The first 68 voices are solo voices, designed for independent use in performance or recording. Simply select a voice and play, using real-time controls as needed. In addition to the controls specified in the voice names, you can use the AS1 and AS2 knobs to adjust the character of the low and high rotors, respectively. Offsets made with these knobs can be saved with each voice. and: General Real Time Controls
Mod Wheel – Rotary speed. Down position is slow (chorale). Up position is fast (tremolo). This control
Assign 1 Knob – Low rotor drive. Applies to most sounds. This influences the depth, timbre, and thickness of the low rotor. Adjustments you make with this knob may be saved with each performance.
AF1 Switch – Activates percussion on select sounds. AF2 Switch – Activates chorus on select sounds. Increases overdrive gain on other select sounds. Master Effect Switch – Activates overdrive in Voice mode and for most organs in Master and Performance modes. |