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rome
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Joined 05-23-2014 status: Newcomer |
hi,
I can not separate the two sounds when I turn down the sound expander also lowers the sound of the piano. In the performance I put in “OFF” the FC controls in zone 1 and 2 and in “ON” the zone 3 (external expander)
In Utility I have assigned to FC1 or 2 Expression or Volume
thanks for the help |
rome
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Joined 05-23-2014 status: Newcomer |
hi, for us this is a BUG???? |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
Could be… Try contacting your regional Yamaha. Don’t have one here at the moment to verify your findings. |
digitalperformer7
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Joined 12-07-2011 status: Enthusiast |
Dear Bad_Mister
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Bad_Mister
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I can double check, but its a long holiday weekend here in the US so it will have to wait at least until next Tuesday, the earliest. Sorry. |
rome
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Joined 05-23-2014 status: Newcomer |
confirm what digitalperformer7 says ! I wrote to Yamaha Italy but I did not answer |
digitalperformer7
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Very kind of yours, Bad_Mister, we owe you a debt of gratitude.
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digitalperformer7
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Bad_Mister
First of all I hooked the FC7 to FC1, connected the CP1 MIDI. OUT to the synth MIDI IN and set the synthesizer to MIDI channel 3.
Then I selected the first Performance from Ext bank, pressed the [COMMON] button, Turned Knob 5 to set KbdMode to “zone†Pressed Knob 6 (ZoneEdit)
Then I did another attempt: changed the CC type… To my amazement I realized that the external synthesizer responded to CC#64, 71, 72, 73 and 74 when mapped to the FC7. This means that CP1 has a bug sending CC#11 or CC#7 to external zones and at the same time, strange but possible, the external synthesizer can’t receive neither CC#11 or CC#7.
Finally, I had a look to the release notes of CP1 firmware and none of them talk about a fixed bug similar to the one I told in this thread…
By the way, I’m wondering because nobody complained for this.... Do really people use their top class instruments? |
stoneb3
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Joined 06-05-2011 status: Guru |
I’ve not had this problem before, not sure of a bug. CP1 received 2 firmware updates the last being V1.21 released on 1/29/2013. Yamaha downloads. From page 2 turn midi transmit switches on and under FC1 turn off zones 1 and 2. See the note on page 52 of the owners manual, transmit switches must be on in order to turn FC1 off. What synth are you attempting to control and can you verify it’s ability to receive what you wish to send it? Stone |
Bad_Mister
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Yeah, I agree, with stoneb3… By turning the MIDI TRANSMIT SWITCH = off, you defeated the ability to transmit via MIDI. From what you wrote I wouldn’t draw any conclusions. I cannot even report what you tried because you give no information on the device you are controlling. Plus the very first thing you state it is not current firmware. ( Yikes! ) I haven’t gotten a chance to look at it today, but I’ll take a look as soon as I can. |
digitalperformer7
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The synthesizer I attempted to control was a Novation Mininova.
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stoneb3
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The Novation Mininova does not recognize cc #7(volume). It does recognize cc #11(expression). However, to use this command you must program each patch to respond to cc #11 via the modulation matrix. A bit time consuming, but doable. The instrument does not respond to expression globally. Perhaps you may have a more suitable unit for your testing? Stone |
digitalperformer7
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Thanks for your reply…
But the important question is: are CP1 internal zones always affected by the FC7 when it’s used also on zone 3 and 4?
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rome
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Joined 05-23-2014 status: Newcomer |
hi,
I’m trying CP1 with Roland Fantom XR, the problem is that if we put off the “FC"controls in zones 1 and 2 ( respond to the sound generator’s internal CP1) and put ON in zones 3 or 4 (dedicated to external module); the volume pedal or expression works on ‘expanders (normal) and CP1 (error = BUG!) |
digitalperformer7
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Is there any news from Bad_Mister??? |
stoneb3
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Sorry for the delay, had to dig the unit out. As I understand we have the CP1 and one external device set to receive on channel 3 and respond to volume control, via FC1 with no effect on the CP1 volume.
From common settings page 1 set keyboard mode to zone.
Zone edit screen page 2 >midi transmit, set to on for zone 3, off for zones 1 and 2.
Continue to controller settings, fourth page. Select source FC1. Select Destinations 1 and 2, turn them off. This will disable FC1 for zones 1 and 2 in the CP1. Store the edited performance. Utility> set your desired midi port, USB or MIDI. You shouldn’t need to set midi channel to 3 as zone 3 in a performance by default transmits on channel 3. Let me know if the bug is dead. Stone |