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AlwaysSunny
Total Posts: 21
Joined 12-14-2016 status: Regular |
Hey there folks! Wondering if this is possible. I don’t have an FC7, but I’ve learned that I can bind the mod wheel to control the effects associated with an FC7. (Is that correct? So far it seems that way.) However, I can’t seem to bind the wheel (or FC7) to the articulations associated with Breath and Aftertouch. I’m not entirely sure I’ve even seen voices which would respond to those inputs. I recall reading that the MOXF samples / tone generator are capable of utilizing those signals if sent correctly. Can these signals be associated with the mod wheel? Or an FC7? Roughly how many of the stock voices actually have articulations that would respond to those controls? Would they be immediately obvious when browsing a voice’s 3-page 6-item control routing menu? To ask my original question in a different way - is there ANY way for me to experience the nuance associated with breath / aftertouch? Would using the VST help? My computer is right next to the thing, so I wouldn’t mind.
Looking forward to learning something.
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5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
What can be controlled is determined by Controller Set settings for Source and Destination. To what degree the Destination is controlled is determined by the Depth setting. See the MOXF Reference Manual, [F4] CTL SET on page 32, and Setting examples of the Destination on page 53.
This support article…
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In most cases changing the Controller Source, as from AT to MW, will accomplish what you’re asking about.
A list of MIDI CC numbers can be useful…
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As to AT, this thread should be interesting…
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The Controller Set Source/Destination settings should reveal that.
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Changing Controller Source settings certainly allows alternative controllers to be substituted, but in my opinion the experience is quite different. |
AlwaysSunny
Total Posts: 21
Joined 12-14-2016 status: Regular |
Thanks for the exceptional reply! (As always. You guys are on the ball!) Good to know that those inputs are bound in the same way as any others. When I didn’t encounter voices with those controls assigned, I felt sure I was missing something. This indirectly confirms my suspicion that I wasn’t missing much by lacking these controls. Not if I already have mod-wheel or foot access to the very same actions they’d drive. Much obliged, |
nbadesign
Total Posts: 994
Joined 08-20-2007 status: Guru |
FMO, breath controller like Yamaha’s BC3a is much responsive than MW and even FC7.
Alex |
AlwaysSunny
Total Posts: 21
Joined 12-14-2016 status: Regular |
Cowabunga, that’s a pricey little box! Maybe some day… To what functions do you typically map your BC input? Wanting more nuance got me interested, but learning BC / FC7 governs the same parameters the mod-wheel can govern, I lost some interest. The desire came from wanting sax growl, but in the voices I’ve tested, toggling growl elements on / off with a button sounds pretty awful. With some voice element edits, could I crossfade between growl / no growl smoothly? At the risk of getting off-topic, what other cool stuff are these toys good for? I’ve been underwhelmed by most of the mod-wheel-bound functions. What kind of stuff should I try binding for different kinds of voices? To the mod-wheel for now, but it might recapture my interest for a new device. |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
You’re welcome. AT and BC have the advantage of not requiring that you remove your hands from the keys. For some users, BC is a “natural” controller while playing wood/brass wind instrument sounds. It’s not easy to describe how the interaction differs from using the MW or a foot controller, you have to experience it for yourself. You might, or might not, change your mind. |
cmayhle
Total Posts: 3116
Joined 10-05-2011 status: Guru |
As an alternative, you might look into This Product. It is currently on sale for $163 Here, with free shipping (from outside US). I am not recommending the product, as I have no personal experience with it, just something to consider. Try searching for reviews or demos online. |
blafot
Total Posts: 105
Joined 05-04-2015 status: Pro |
Hi.
http://blafotproduktion.se/breath-controller-adapter/
I use mine a lot on both MOXF and Roland. Have been using it on stage. Mine works but do not blame me if yours do not work or break your borad.
Regards
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nbadesign
Total Posts: 994
Joined 08-20-2007 status: Guru |
Cowabunga, that’s a pricey little box! Maybe some day…
I have bought BC3 controller when I had Motif ES, since it has breath controller input. At that time I found that BC isn’t intended only for PLG150-VL board that I also have and I’m still amazed with its capabilities. You should also check K Sounds Artikulation voice library, at that time made for ES. Although it uses only internal ES sounds without additional samples, main feature is using BC or FC7. One example that I like a lot is piano layered with choir and strings. You could play piano solo and dynamically add choir or strings by blowing to BC or press FC7 smoothly. Check audio examples at the link.
Alex |