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kvt
Total Posts: 78
Joined 04-30-2011 status: Experienced |
Hi guys
I am trying to find a way to trigger ARPEGGIO with Modulation wheel…
Thank you |
Vetalexy
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Joined 07-20-2015 status: Regular |
If it is very necessary - nothing is impossible. It is necessary to use an external application (eg Lemur, Bome’s Midi Translator) to analyze the modulation wheel value. And transform them according to your plan in the SYSEX arpeggio switches (Data List p.129) or SYSEX arpeggio parameters (Data List p.132). Incidentally, in this embodiment, can be switched to a more than 6 arpeggios. |
kvt
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Joined 04-30-2011 status: Experienced |
Thank you very much Vetalexy ....
It sounds great but need to understand little more !
K |
Vetalexy
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What exactly do you want to know?
Midi modulation controller number: 1
Example SF switch (performance mode):
SF1: IN - cc:1 value:0, OUT - SYSEX: F0 43 10 7F 1C 00 30 30 00 00 F7
Example Arpegio set (performance mode):
For SF1: SYSEX: F0 43 10 7F 1C 00 34 pp 3C lsb msb F7
arpnumber: form 1 to 7981
For example: Set 1: IN - cc:1 value:0, SF1, part:2 arpnumber:254 OUT - SYSEX: F0 43 10 7F 1C 00 34 01 3C 02 7E F7
Set 2: IN - cc:1 value:10, SF4, part:1 arpnumber:1785 OUT - SYSEX: F0 43 10 7F 1C 00 34 00 42 0E 79 F7
So what is next:
By the way, the internal modulation You will not interfere? Think about how you want to disable it? |
kvt
Total Posts: 78
Joined 04-30-2011 status: Experienced |
Thank you very much Vetalexy for your detailed reply! I realized that I can use eve AF buttons to trigger ARP as I just need on and off switch of ARP
Let me explain you what I am after:-
I just need ARP switch ON or OFF on AF button. As I am also using ARP trill on other Mandolin instrument (which is working fine with velocity triggering) I need actual ARP switch ON )for all the time for other instruments). My all live set is in SONG MODE. I would prefer to control trill through my left hand so I can play with right hand ! I tried to find ARP switching on CTRL set but could’t find.
My question is where and how can I place your SYS EXCL script?
Thank you once again. |
5pinDIN
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Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
To make sure I understand…
If so, I have a few questions…
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kvt
Total Posts: 78
Joined 04-30-2011 status: Experienced |
Yes that’s correct even If I can control on/off with AF buttons is fine!
Yes !!
Not really !
No!! |
5pinDIN
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Too bad. Good luck. |
kvt
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How about that if I create one more song just dedicated to this sound and If I say yes to all your questions?! |
5pinDIN
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Before we go there…
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kvt
Total Posts: 78
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When I play (hit) note harder (with higher velocity) it triggers ARP. |
5pinDIN
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I wanted to determine how you had programmed that. I’ll assume you set the Arp Velocity Limit high, such as Santur PRE8 31(B15), rather than velocity-switching to a different sample that has a built-in trill/Arp. I’ll get back to you in a while with details of how to use the MW with two Voices and two Parts. |
5pinDIN
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The basic concept is to create two similar Voices, one with Arps turned off and the other with them on, and to use the Mod Wheel to control Element Level for the two Voices so that one decreases with rotation while the other increases. Then the two Voices are selected as Parts, with them both on the same MIDI Channel. I created an example of this approach… I’ve attached a Motif XF All/X3A file to this post. All User locations are initialized except for the first two User Voices and the first Performance. The USER1 A01 Voice is “Santur-No Arp”. I copied Santur PRE8 31(B15) to that location, and turned off the Arp Switch. Also, the Mod Wheel destination in Control Set is now Element-Level, with a Depth of -32, Element Switches 1/2/3 on. What that does is reduce the volume level of the Voice to inaudible as the MW is turned up. The USER1 A02 Voice is “Santur-With Arp”. It also began as a copy of Santur PRE8 31(B15). I set the Arp Velocity Limit to 1-127. The Amplitude Level is set to 0 (zero) for Elements 1 and 2. The Mod Wheel destination in Control Set is now Element-Level, with a Depth of +25, Element Switches 1 and 2 on. With those settings the volume level is minimal with the MW all the way down, and increases as the MW is turned up. I created a Performance “Santur-ArpMW_5pinDIN” at USER1 A01. Parameter with Voice was turned on, then Voice “Santur-No Arp” (USER1 A01) is set as Part 1, Voice “Santur-With Arp” (USER1 A02) is set as Part 2. Chorus and Reverb effects were copied from USER1 A01 Voice, as were their send levels. Arp 5 was set to be the default. Part 1 Volume was increased from the default 100 to 127, so that the two Parts had a better volume level match. You could load the X3A file in entirety to the MOXF, and see how the MW works in the Performance. (Be sure to back up your current data before doing that.) It would also be possible to load the two Voices and the Performance individually, but be sure that the Performance Parts point to wherever the two Voices get located. I didn’t create a Song Mixing because XF and MOXF Songs aren’t compatible, but what I did in the Performance can be done with a MOXF Song or Pattern Mixing. The two Parts would have to be set to the same MIDI Receive Channel. File Attachments
Santur demo 5pinDIN.zip (File Size: 132KB - Downloads: 115) |
kvt
Total Posts: 78
Joined 04-30-2011 status: Experienced |
5pinDIN… Really appreciate your long detailed reply and effort. Thank you very much. I have exactly understood your approach.. Simply Amazing logic!! I have created my new VOICE with my own samples of Santur but I will apply your concept and will create two voices (Two part on one channel in SONG mode with ARP on and one with ARP off with your suggested modulation wheel settings. Thank you once again..God bless. |