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Viewing topic "Is it fare to use loops to write songs?"

     
Posted on: March 02, 2009 @ 04:30 AM
2Reggie
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“Polow Da Don Exposed” is the title that’s on You Tube.
Lots of beat makers have found the sample loops in ‘’Garage Band’’ that was used by producer ‘’Polow Da Don’’ on the (Ushers’s In This Club ) song was cheating.
Could it be that people are just hating?
What’s your view?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVHvnpoVTGY

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Posted on: March 02, 2009 @ 11:43 AM
J Boz
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of course they are. looped beats are common. lots of people use live drummers for concerts.
let them hate.
i wonder if they hate the millions in the bank ? LOL

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Posted on: March 02, 2009 @ 12:14 PM
jimandchris
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Well put KBP. Let the loops fly free. Please, just make some music.

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Posted on: March 02, 2009 @ 09:34 PM
The Funk Master
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Yo Reggie, that’s what they do nowdays, it’s common place.
Just about in EVERY genre,,,mainly RnB and Hip Hop, also Pop.

“Feel that, do that.”

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Posted on: March 03, 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Oh, puhhleease.  Definately pouring on the hate…

It’s no different than hearing a MOTIF Voice that you know well in a production (I heard one on a Discovery Channel show, thought I recognized it, turned on my RACK, and yep, there it was, clear as day...)

Saying you can’t use GB’s loops is like saying you can’t use the Preset voices.  Just horsepuckies…

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Posted on: March 03, 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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>>> Is it ‘fare’ ...

I call that a transcendential typo .....

;JOOP!

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Posted on: March 03, 2009 @ 01:43 PM
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I have used loops and there is nothing wrong with it. As long as you have permission to use them (in the case of garageband, just by purchasing the loops you usually get permission to exploit them in any way you would like). I have remixed tracks given the individual files for different competitions. It is just hating. Garageband in particular is an excellent program. I just updated to Garageband ‘09 and plan to get into that deep this year. I agree that it is no different from using a voice preset or drum pattern or any keyboard. The only people who may have the right to hate are those that actually sit down with staff paper and right out notes for each instrument in their song and then go out and find those instruments and record them. LOL. But back to recording!…

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Posted on: March 03, 2009 @ 09:28 PM
The Funk Master
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HEY, Fingaz, that old school ya know. LOL
One thing about loops though, is that it tends to spoil you to a point.
Most of ust play our loops though, keeping it orginaly ya know.

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Posted on: March 03, 2009 @ 11:46 PM
2Reggie
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I agree with you Motif Family,
I know that using loops could sometimes make a writer dependent on them
so much that they need to have them to create a beat.
Some of us remember back in the day when if anyone sampled from a record you was considered
a none creator, none musician, stealing others material and so on.
Today it’s considered as a normal ‘’nothing to it’’ kind of thing.
For me, if I use a loop, I sometimes would rearrange it by chopping it up and putting more drums / percussive or synth rhythms on top of it to get a deferent perspective of that loop.

In the long run I would use an analogy like, we all make chicken but it’s how you spice it up that truly makes the differents ( unique.)
As for the loop that was used by “Polow Da Don”, do you think that it would make any different’s to him....I would believe not, the song blew up, and put thousands of dollars in his bank account..Lol
Thanks for the reply Motif Family.
Peace & blessings.

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Posted on: March 04, 2009 @ 09:20 AM
The Funk Master
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Reggie, some of the FIRST loops I’ve ever heard, were done by Parliment-Funkadelic.
George Clinton and Warrell, I think that’s his name, the moog player, they call them groove loops.
Bootsy Collins’ “Space Bass” has a recorder on it, and he loops a bassline, and plays overdub with it.

Most ALL hip hop is looped, mainly the drumbeats.
When I got the Motif, I learned to create loops.
When I first started posting here though, I had to play each track of the song, all the way through, the old school way.
If I made a noticable mistake, I had to start over again from the top.

“THANK GOD FOR LOOPS” lol

LOOP THE LOOP TROOP

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Posted on: March 04, 2009 @ 06:59 PM
2Reggie
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Wow Jerry, I didn’t know that.

I hear songs with ‘’Parliament-Funkadelic’’ samples in it all of the time.

so that means that people who sample them is actually sampling someone else’s samples as well...Lol

Sample - Loop away.

Peace & blessings.

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Posted on: March 05, 2009 @ 01:44 PM
J Boz
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everything you do in life is a loop. think about it:

your job
the way you drive to work
the strip clubs you visit
the massage parlors you go to with happy endings
the way you kiss your wife and kids
the way you take a dump

LOL !!!

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Posted on: March 05, 2009 @ 01:56 PM
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Everything in Nature is a sine wave .............

;JOOP!

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