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Posted on: March 20, 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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Hi all,

I’m considering to sell my Motif ES6, but I would like to keep three wonderful sound icons in plugin format: PLG-150VL, PLG-150DX and PLG-150AN. Since new Yamaha keyboards don’t accept plugin synthesis, in order to use these boards I’m looking for MU128 or MU2000 on e-Bay. I had also Motif Rack ES in mind, but it is much expensive and accept only two boards, while MUs are capable to accept all three boards.
My only question is regarding compatibility. In MU128 manual PLG-100 series board are listed as accepted, while somewhere I read that MU2000 accept both PLG-100 and PLG-150 even in combination.
Does anyone have these tone generators with PLG-150 boards in it? I will respect any advice!
Thank you in advance!

Alex

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Posted on: March 21, 2016 @ 05:00 AM
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Alex,

I bought a MU2000 with PLG-100VH, PLG-150AN and PLG-150VL installed last year for a good price. They work OK with the MU2000 but I haven’t really done much in-depth programming with them and music.  Also all the manuals and books that I’ve downloaded are in Japanese as I think it was only released there. I had used the VH in my previous PSR S900, and missed out on an EX5 for the VL capability.  I also have a BC3 breath controller that I wanted to use for the VL - this is where the Motif ES has a major advantage over a MU module. Ended up getting a Keylab 25 controller with the BC input.
The manuals are able to be understood as keywords and diagrams are in English. I also downloaded some old PLG brochures and they also have pics/data showing MU128 compatibility.

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Posted on: March 21, 2016 @ 05:38 AM
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Alex,

Further research shows some old threads from BM -

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460662/#540513
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460224/

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Posted on: March 21, 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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jimbowal - 21 March 2016 05:00 AM

Alex,

I bought a MU2000 with PLG-100VH, PLG-150AN and PLG-150VL installed last year for a good price. They work OK with the MU2000 but I haven’t really done much in-depth programming with them and music.  Also all the manuals and books that I’ve downloaded are in Japanese as I think it was only released there. I had used the VH in my previous PSR S900, and missed out on an EX5 for the VL capability.  I also have a BC3 breath controller that I wanted to use for the VL - this is where the Motif ES has a major advantage over a MU module. Ended up getting a Keylab 25 controller with the BC input.
The manuals are able to be understood as keywords and diagrams are in English. I also downloaded some old PLG brochures and they also have pics/data showing MU128 compatibility.

Hi jimbowal,

Thanks a lot for your answer! I’m also have BC3a and was thrilled when I for the first time play VL board in ES. Since I also have Rack XS and MOXF and want to keep this nice controller, I have bought MIDI Solutions Breath Controller. It accept input from BC3/3a and have to be connected to other keyboard or tone generator via standard MIDI cable. That’s why I’m considering MU2000. I also hope that guides from MU128 could help, since I’m not familiar with Japanese.

Alex

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Posted on: March 21, 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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jimbowal - 21 March 2016 05:38 AM

Alex,

Further research shows some old threads from BM -

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460662/#540513
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460224/

Yes, I have read it and that’s why I’m a little bit worried not to lose all PLG advantages, esp. boards programming capabilities. I have several voice banks prepared for all three boards and want to use them.
I thought that MU2000EX has that feature, so I could program PLG board voices and use host effects like in ES. If not, I would keep ES.

Alex

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Posted on: March 26, 2016 @ 12:14 PM
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nbadesign - 21 March 2016 03:04 PM

jimbowal - 21 March 2016 05:38 AM
Alex,

Further research shows some old threads from BM -

http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460662/#540513
http://www.motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/460224/

I am not sure about statements in the previous posts regarding MU2000EX, since I found brochure (given in attachment) where on the last page there are photos with all three mentioned plug-in editors (DX, AN, VL) and with scheme that includes editing capability. Since all text is in Japanese, I’m not sure that I could use voice banks created in those editors if I put my PLG150 boards in MU2000.
If someone from Yamaha like Bad Mister could help, I would appreciate.

Alex

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