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Posted on: December 16, 2013 @ 01:50 PM
Dromeus
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Just loaded the Inspiration in a Flash library INSPFLSH.X6A to my MOFX. The readme states that it takes about 20 min to load. Actually it took 40 minutes. It was confirmed to me that the Motif XF loads this data in about 20 minutes.

Is the MOXF slower when it comes to writing data to the flash?
I use a Mutec flash board.

Maybe some MOXF owner using an original Yammie flash board can report, how long it took to load this library?

Just curious…

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Posted on: December 16, 2013 @ 02:17 PM
pax_eterna
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About 20 minutes here, give or take - but then I have the Yamaha Flash card...maybe that is the difference?

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Posted on: December 16, 2013 @ 02:43 PM
MeMyselfAndI64
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This is interesting as I am about to order an Mutec Flash board.

Dromeus: Have you had it for an while? does it work OK?

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Posted on: December 17, 2013 @ 12:39 AM
Dromeus
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Thanks, pax_externa!

Seems there IS a reason to spend some more money for the flash board for the impatient…

I installed the Mutec board last weekend. Besides lower write speed, no problems so far. I stepped through each voice in the lib to give it a listen.

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Posted on: December 17, 2013 @ 01:01 AM
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Hi,

I have the mutec 1GB board, too.
It is working fine with no problems.
Before the MOXF I used it in a Tyros4 and
it worked there, too.
In fact, the write speed for me is not so important, because
I use it not very often. But the sounds remain in the MOXF and are
instant avaliable after power on. In my opinion this is much more important.
To compare the speed we would need the label of the used flash chips.
Then you can get the datasheet and look at the chips specification
(read and write speeds).

There might be an other reason for the difference of writing the flash
memory. You compare the MOXF speed with the MOTIF XF. I expect the Motif XF has a faster CPU. This could affect the writing speed, too.

Mutec flash board:
4336152_800.jpg

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popsel2

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Posted on: December 17, 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Assuming that the image posted is what’s actually on the Mutec boards, then they have the same flash chips (JS28F00A-M29EWL) as Yamaha boards.

Data sheet:
http://www.datasheetdir.com/goframeit/JS28F00AM29EWH.pdf

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Posted on: December 17, 2013 @ 10:51 PM
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5pinDIN - 17 December 2013 11:17 AM

Assuming that the image posted is what’s actually on the Mutec boards, then they have the same flash chips (JS28F00A-M29EWL) as Yamaha boards.

Data sheet:
http://www.datasheetdir.com/goframeit/JS28F00AM29EWH.pdf

I would expect Yamaha spend a Motif XF a faster processor than the MOXF. If not the display would react quite slow like on vintage Atari ST with only 8MHZ cpu. Managing a grapic color display needs simple more processing power than using a simple low resolution lcd we see on the MOXF. Writing to flash is a CPU intensive process.
Saving data to an USB stick or writing the flash memory module is not the most important point a musical instrument needs to have. As long as the timing of the sequencer is not suffering I this is OK for me.

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popsel2

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Posted on: December 18, 2013 @ 01:21 AM
MeMyselfAndI64
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Thanks for the input…
I don`t mind the extra load time!

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Posted on: December 18, 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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I agree - I may have gone for the Mutec myself, but by the time I got one in (none available in Australia) and paid all the shipping, it was going to be a similar cost, so I went genuine.

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