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boulez
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Joined 02-12-2007 status: Guru |
This is a “what is the intended purpose” sort of question and I realise there will be several approaches and applications Looking at the Cubase screenshot you posted with ‘all outputs activated’ I wonder if you would give a little clarity to what the particular Cubase tracks in this shot are intended to do I can see (and create here) the MIDI track with 8 instrument tracks and one Group FX (I think) track. How can each instrument track adrress a different voice of the XS and therefore be (as you say) Mutli-Timbral. I instictively want to give each Instrument track a different MIDI channel which would achieve what I am asking but can’t see how to do that. or ....... Have I got it wrong (as I sense I have) and are the 8 instrument tracks in fact the audio lanes of the MIDI track and do they therefore represent the 8 stereo returns from the XS? If so, why, in the inspector do I see only audio ouput (and not input routing). This would then raise the question “ How can I set up Cubase such that I have (say) 16 MIDI tracks and have each track play a different voice of the XS with the XS returning the audio to (say) 16 Cubase tracks”? - (in a similar way to having 16 MIDI tracks each with its own instance of Halion each with a different voice) I realise there is much confusion above but hopefully, you will (with your experise), be able to see what I am finding confusing and then clarify. We have already spent quite some time so please don;t think we are being ‘lazy’ here :) B Thanks. PS We have the MediaBay integration working but more of your thoughts and tips on that feature would be most welcome. |
Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Moderator |
In general, when you want to use the Motif XS as a multi-timbral tone engine (and it is fair to assume that this will be the most common usage)… you do not want to use an INSTRUMENT TRACK. An INSTRUMENT TRACK (by Steinberg definition) is for when you are only using the device in question for a stereo output. INSTRUMENT TRACK ................................................
Restrictions
• Instrument tracks always have one stereo output channel only. This means that VST Instruments that do not provide a stereo output as their first output channel cannot be used with instrument tracks.
Conclusion
................................................................. So from this explanation, you would only use the Motif XS VST with an INSTRUMENT TRACK when your goal is simply to use Cubase automation on a project and/or you are only using one sound from your Motif XS. Not when you want to use it with a multi-timbral setup. In the coming weeks we will have a tutorial on how to use the INSTRUMENT TRACK - but you are asking about the “ACTIVATE OUTPUTS” Function… Which would be used when you are using the Motif XS multi-timbrally. Initially, when you go to DEVICES > VST INSTRUMENTS and you select EXTERNAL > MOTIF XS VST… it will ask you if you want to create a MIDI track. A MIDI TRACK is (as I’m sure you know) where you can record MIDI your data, *typically* you create a MIDI Track for each MIDI channel. I say ‘typically’, because you can use a single track if set the MIDI track so that Channel = “ANY”. You only need to DISSOLVE PARTS when you need to edit a mistake… but typically, most users find it useful to create a separate MIDI track for each Channel. You simply need to point the OUTPUT of that MIDI track to “Motif XS VST”. (I personally have found it more convenient to work with a single MIDI track set to Channel = ANY because it makes navigating the Track view much simpler) Our tutorial will take you through both methods. The MIDI Tracks are where you record your MIDI Data… the audio lanes are for RETURNING audio (the MIDI track data travels to the tone generator of the Motif XS which outputs audio. The Returning audio can then be processed in Cubase with VST EFFECTS, automation, etc., etc. this returning audio is found in the so called “audio lane”. When you activate, say, all 8 of the stereo Outputs, it creates 8 audio lanes. How signal gets assigned to those lanes will depend on the what mLAN OUTPUTS you route that signal to… How you decide to route signal will depend on where and how you wish to process (effect) that data. Routing something to an individual (mLAN Output) takes it out of the System Effects of the XS and isolates it on a stereo bus. But the routing to these OUTPUTS takes place, (most importantly) in the Motif XS. Keep your MIDI tracks (as the ultimate level of UNDO/REDO) and commit parts to audio using either Motif XS processing, Cubase VST Effects, or both as your project dictates. The options that this brings to the mix (pun intended) is great. The danger in any explanation is that you might think there is one way to work… There is not. It is extremely flexible.
You asked transferring MIDI tracks to audio tracks:
You should be thinking what PARTS from my Motif XS would benefit from processing with external effects (say those you have in Cubase as VST Effects)… what tracks do I simply need to use the current processing available in the Motif XS.
Example: I just finished a Project with the following Motif XS tracks:
I setup the guitar with several VST EFFECTS and printed it as audio (using Export)… The original MIDI data I dragged into a FOLDER Track labeled MIDI… I now Mute that Folder. My new processed guitar has 2 Insertion Effects from the XS and I assigned a Tube Distortion and Flanger from my arsenal of VST Effects in Cubase. Instead of thinking in box, where I’m processing everything all at once I concentrate my effects (and my resources) on what I’m doing at the moment. I only render to individual audio tracks data I need to processes specially. Otherwise the tracks are routed to the L&R;(Main) outputs which have the Motif XS System Effects. |
boulez
Total Posts: 669
Joined 02-12-2007 status: Guru |
Thank you very much. This clarifies much of what was confusing and the real example you gave is very helpful indeed. Looking forward to the tutorials to come on this item, Regards, B |