http://www.firestone-audio.com/fsa_firekey/fsa_firekey_greenkey.html

I bought one because of very noisy USB audio using the Yamaha USB/Audio drivers for the MOXf. (please note NOT the Motif XF drivers ;-) )

It removes about 98% of the noise, but be aware the MIDI side of the Yamaha driver can cause it to crash and exhibit the “USB device not recognised, please re-connect” message from Windows.

But for audio only it is a great device imo.

BTW the MIDI crashing seems to be restricted to the Yamaha MIDI driver as both Korg and Roland drivers have no issues. It is interesting that re the Yammie driver, SYSEX data seems to the likely culprit...unusual? Yes ...but trials are continuing ;-)

Yes ...but trials are continuing ;-)

Seriously? Do you know what you are doing in these trials? The Driver is not making noise… it is a connection issue with your USB bus handling both MIDI and Audio. It is not an uncommon problem and has definite solutions.

By the way: Are any of the other drivers you are talking about (from other companies doing both audio and MIDI via the single USB connection… let us know, you are doing these trials, let us know - because then that would be apples to apples, right?)

System Exclusive data is your conclusion as the source of the noise and/or system crashing? Really? Is it possible that this is not a worldwide problem but just what you are experiencing in your particular setup?

Please contact a Yamaha Application Specialist for help, you apparently have some serious setup issues. And since you will not recount them here, perhaps they can look at your system and straighten things out. Unless your trials are the real news and then we should all look to you for what to do
:-)

(on the serious side: we have literally thousands and thousands of keyboard players using this driver without experiencing the problems you report. Consider the remote possibility it could just be a very local problem on your system) Ok? Want help? Please contact Customer Support.

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Bad_Mister - 08 December 2013 12:28 PM

Yes ...but trials are continuing ;-)

Seriously? Do you know what you are doing in these trials? The Driver is not making noise… it is a connection issue with your USB bus handling both MIDI and Audio. It is not an uncommon problem and has definite solutions.

By the way: Are any of the other drivers you are talking about (from other companies doing both audio and MIDI via the single USB connection… let us know, you are doing these trials, let us know - because then that would be apples to apples, right?)

System Exclusive data is your conclusion as the source of the noise and/or system crashing? Really? Is it possible that this is not a worldwide problem but just what you are experiencing in your particular setup?

Please contact a Yamaha Application Specialist for help, you apparently have some serious setup issues. And since you will not recount them here, perhaps they can look at your system and straighten things out. Unless your trials are the real news and then we should all look to you for what to do
:-)

(on the serious side: we have literally thousands and thousands of keyboard players using this driver without experiencing the problems you report. Consider the remote possibility it could just be a very local problem on your system) Ok? Want help? Please contact Customer Support.

BM you really need to take a chill pill!

Nope no setup issues -everything works sweet as, except the USB noise when the MOXF is connnected to the PC via USB :-)

And where did I say it was the drivers causing it????? I said I was using the driver and there is a lot of noise with it, but I don’t know where you pulled that (that I said the driver was the cause) from…

Further I also did NOT say it was sysex - I said it was a likely cuplprit (maybe you need a refresher on language ;-) instead of paraphrasing to suit your own ends). This was ascertained because normal midi data (WHEN USING THE FIREKEY - NOTE!!) was tx’d and rx’d fine, however as soon as sysex data was streamed it caused W8 to call the “Windows 8 USB device not recognised, please re-connect” message.

But again the other midi drivers were fine with the same sysex data. As I wrote I did find this unusual, and again that is not stating it is so, merely commenting it is an unusual occurrence.

Which is why I also wrote I am continuing to trial and error it all.

It was only a comment re the operation of the Firekey with Yamaha MIDI drivers. Based on the fact that the same issue was NOT encountered with three other USB MIDI drivers using the Firekey. Don’t know about you, but I would call that pretty much apples to apples ;-)

m8, I have NO issues with my audio setup, been using PC’s and audio for , oh, maybe 10-12 years now....

Just accept that there may be an issue with the grounding/shielding of the hardware at the MOXf end...it is after all a budget keyboard, and I would doubt it has a high-end USB spec’d system. Now before you get all bent out of shape again, THAT is an “observation” not a criticism.

Its totally cool I can use my Presonus gear to do both jobs...the audio quality and multi channel capability is restricted anyway.

I was only making this post to pass on info on a device that works...that you seem to take it as an affront on the integrity of Yamaha is your problem, not mine :-)

Honestly, guys...and I’ve gotten more than one good laugh (at myself) over stuff like this.  I would go ape**** trying to figure out where that damn high-frequency hissing sound was coming from.  I swear, the older I get - the not-necessarily-smarter I become, LOL. Recently I had myself utterly convinced I needed to replace a mic preamp when in fact, it wound up being something as simple as a ground lift...hence, the elimination of the pesky noise!

So, in my case, I’m running the MOXF’s usb to an i7 Sweetwater Creationstation.  I must say, I’m super-thrilled how incredibly wonderfully silent everything is, that is, everything except what I want to play or hear as actually pertaining to the music creation at hand.

Trust me, I’ve had to at times, simply walk away from the recording gear from time to time - and come back later in order to figure out why a certain noise is prevailing...and since I’m not a trade electrician, I can’t entirely rule out other stuff (i.e., electrical wiring behind layers of acoustic tiling).

So Pax, please understand Bad Mister isn’t jabbing at you, but respect (as I’m sure you do) where he’s coming from...more than likely he’s seen it all, so to speak - yet keeps patiently dealing with us folks along with our laundry list of strange, frustrating issues). I sure hope you can nail it down. In the fine word’s penned by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Detective Holme’s creator), “when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

I agree with Bad_Mister wholeheartedly: contact Customer Report.  I recently resolved an issue I had with a piece of Nord gear.  Finally contacted our friends in Stockholm and had matters resolved overnight, literally :-)