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paricha
Total Posts: 5
Joined 10-19-2017 status: Newcomer |
Can we set the date for data save on the MOXF? |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
No. Although the MOXF has a processor, unlike most computers there’s no real-time clock. EDIT: You could include the date in the name of the file. Two digits each for year, month, day only uses six of the 20 available characters. I suggest that order for the date, placed at the beginning of the name. That way you can search filenames on a computer, and the files will sort in order of date.
For example…
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Fnord
Total Posts: 18
Joined 12-23-2015 status: Regular |
The MOXF (at least mine) does only support 8+3 Filenames. So you’ll have only 2 characters after the 6 digit date. Real bummer, I know ;) |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
It’s true that naming files on the MOXF is limited to the old MS-DOS 8+3. However, there’s nothing to prevent renaming the file on a computer, using additional characters. The XF allows filenames of 20 (+3) characters to be entered on it. (By the way, the XF will recognize filenames having several more characters.) The MOXF is compatible with XF files, and will recognize those named with longer than 8+3 characters. As an experiment I’ve zipped and attached an XF file, 171125XFfactoryTest.X3A, which is just an “All” file with XF factory content, the name being 19+3 characters. I’d appreciate knowing how that displays on the MOXF, although I suspect it just truncates the name. Please let us know. File Attachments
171125XFfactoryTest.zip (File Size: 405KB - Downloads: 119) |
wonderer
Total Posts: 30
Joined 10-11-2017 status: Regular |
This file shows on the MOXF as 171125~1.X3A |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
5pinDIN - 25 November 2017 06:27 PM Thanks for that information. So as I thought, longer filenames can be used on a computer and they can still be seen by the MOXF, although shortened when displayed. |
wonderer
Total Posts: 30
Joined 10-11-2017 status: Regular |
Your welcome. The only way I can see to shorten a date field is to make it a bit cryptic, for instance like this:
1 = 2001 = 1
That covers all months, days and years until 2036 in 3 characters, keeps sorting working properly and leaves 5 characters for a name instead of 2.
Another way is to put stuff in folders:
That leaves 6 characters for a name. |
5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
That would work, but it’s indeed cryptic. A file created today, assuming year/month/day order (2017/Nov/29), would look like…
In addition, when placed on a USB flash drive, if not in a separate folder such a filename would get commingled with other files having alpha characters.
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Yes, but then files from the same day of the month, but a different year or month, might be named identically. To prevent possible confusion, they would have to be kept in a folder structure no matter where they existed. It seems MOXF users who want to identify their files by date will have to choose how to name them. Fortunately for me, the XS and XF don’t have the same limitations on filename length. |
wonderer
Total Posts: 30
Joined 10-11-2017 status: Regular |
Even without a date the filenames are to short.
For me it’s a mystery why Yamaha only allowed short filenames on the MOXF. It’s like going back in time.
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5pinDIN
Total Posts: 11891
Joined 09-16-2010 status: Legend |
I can provide some insight… The MOXF sounds very similar to the Motif XF, but certain things were done to keep costs down. The XS and XF run on MontaVista Linux. The owner’s manuals for those models include notices of GNU public licensing, and source code is available from Yamaha. Linux can accommodate very long filenames. The MOXF manual has no such notice, and I don’t know specifically what it runs on. However, whatever it is, it apparently has filename length restrictions similar to good old DOS. |