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Posted on: August 04, 2002 @ 02:31 AM
HuangChung
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I have a few questions about loading PLG voice data into the Motif. Any help with these would be appreciated.

1. If I save an ‘All’ file or an ‘All Voice’ file to smartmedia on the Motif when it has no PLG boards installed, and then I reload this file after the installation of an AN board (for example), will there be a problem with the compatibility of the reloaded data now that the Motif has a PLG board inside? What would happen to the voice data in the PLGUSR bank when the old data is reloaded?

2. What happens if you save an ‘All’ file or an ‘All Voice’ file on a Motif that has the AN board installed in Slot 2, and you then try to load this data into a Motif that has its AN board in Slot 3? Again, would there be a problem with the compatibility of the data?

3. When you save PLG data in bulk form as a ‘Plugin All Bulk (1,2 or 3)’ file, does this also save the voice setup data in the PLGUSR bank, or does it just save the user edited board voices (ie - only the data in bank 036/002 for the AN board, for example)?

4. I have downloaded some Yamaha DX7 patches in sysex format from the web. Is it possible to load these voices into the PLG DX board, either directly, or via the DX expert editor?

5. Is it possible to load Yamaha AN1x voices into the PLG AN board? If so, what voice formats can you do this with, and how is it done?

6. Can the new Drum and Percussion plug-in boards access more than one MIDI channel at a time (ie - can you assign a bass drum to channel 10 and a snare to channel 11 etc, as you can with the internal voices)? Or are these boards restricted to one track only?

Thanks in advance for your help.


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Posted on: August 04, 2002 @ 06:51 AM
Bad_Mister
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Re: PLG Voice Loading Questions

1) This is multi part answer. An ALL data file that is reloaded after you acquire a PLG150-AN board will reload with all the USER VOICES and it will play properly. But because there was no PLG150-AN board in the Motif when it was created, naturally there is no data for that PLG_USR bank - those locations hold blanks. If, in the meantime, you create your own PLG_USR Voice data, any older file will overwrite the PLG_USR bank with blanks if loaded in. In anticipation of this scenario there is the VOICE EDITOR file type (.w2e). This file type is created by the Voice Editor for Motif6/7/8 and can be ‘moved to’ and ‘read directly from’ SmartMedia or SCSI drive. The VOICE EDITOR for MOTIF program lets you elegantly manage the USER bank Voices. That includes the internal Motif Normal USER and Drum USER Voices plus any PLG_USR Voices for PLG150 Series in slot 1, slot 2 and slot 3. So if you needed to combine any PLG Voices into older ALL data files, it is a simple matter. You can bulk from the Editor directly to the PLG USER Bank -

In fact you can assemble your Voice banks in the Editor and bulk the entire setup to the Motif then save it to a SmartMedia card - that is the concept: use the computer at home where it is convenient, assemble your sounds, then save them to SmartMedia for transport for when you are away from your computer.

2) If you move the PLG board to a new slot, the Voice data will be incompatible. If you move the board to slot 3 and you load Voice data that was saved from slot 2, the Voice data will load into PLG2USR and it will not find the AN board. You will get no sound - you will see the Voice Name and all the parameters for that Voice but when you go to the EDIT/ Element level/ F1 OSC/ SF1 WAVE screen you will not see the Element (036/002) that is responsible for the sound. Individual Voice data can be loaded from an ALL data file, so you can point any Voice to any PLG USR bank slot (via the SmartMedia/SCSI drive) and, of course, via the VOICE EDITOR.

3) No. The PluginAllBulk1/2/3 file saves user edited board voices from the 036/002 bank in slot 1/2/3 respectively. It does not save the PLG_USR Voice data. PLG USER VOICE data is saved in the Motif because it is *Motif related parameters* (i.e., Motif effects, Motif controllers, etc.). This scenario is analogous to Voice parameters and the raw “samples” and how they can be two separate pieces of data. For example, with a sample Voice you have the USER Motif Voice parameters and these can be loaded separately from the sample data which can be stored as a .wav file. In fact the Voice data *points* to the wave data. The PLG board Voice is an “element” and is stored in the PluginAllBulk type file related to the slot number that the board is in when the Voice is created. The Voice data in this case, points to the element data (which is on the PLG board itself).

4) Yes. You can move the sysex data to the user board bank of the DX board (035/000) in sets of 32. That is, 1-32 in one bulk and 33-64 in the second set. You can set which bulk set will be received in UTILITY/ F6 PLUG/ SF x NATIVE for the slot containing the PLG150-DX. If your DX data is in .syx files you should use a utility like MIDI-OX (shareware) to send the data to the PLG150-DX. One tip here: set the Native DX parameter so that the velocity curve is DX7 (NORMAL is usually too bright for FM sounds) the DX7 curve mimics the velocity curve of the original unit and tends to make the sounds less “overdriven”.

5) Yes, of course. The AN1x had two engines in it, however, so technically you can load in SCENE 1 of any AN1x Voice. The PLG150-AN is like a single engine AN1x. And although the PLG150-AN board has the ability to MORPH - it works a little differently. In the AN1x you could Morph between Scene 1 (one Voice) and Scene 2 (a second Voice). In the PLG150-AN you can morph but all sounds morph to a pre-selected setting. For example you could have a favorite lead sound and have any sound in the PLG150-AN morph to that particular favorite setting. The AN Expert Editor can read both .an1 and .ans type files.

6) Don’t have a Drum/Perc board yet, but they are single part boards (that is what the PLG150 series is about) meaning they occupy a single PART and can be addressed on a single MIDI channel at a time. But depending on what you want to do, remember many of the kits duplicate the internal kits so you have access to a lot of the sounds internally as well as on the board.  20MB of drums is a lot of drums!!!

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Posted on: August 05, 2002 @ 12:14 AM
HuangChung
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Re: PLG Voice Loading Questions

Many thanks for such a comprehensive reply, Bad Mister - it’s greatly appreciated.  :)

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