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Posted on: February 03, 2009 @ 01:50 PM
DrDel
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Why would multi-part editor receive some voices from a song mix and not others? I have a song with instruments on 14 tracks. When I do a bulk receive for the multi it gets all of the voices correctly except one voice (a guitar) that is used on three channels. That voice is set to the default piano in multi-part editor for those three tracks. Also, after receiving the multi, those three voices are set to the default piano back on the ES. Very strange.

I am using USB to connect, Vista on the PC, up to date with drivers, studio manager, and multi-part editor, and OS is 1.08 on the ES. Except for this, communication appears to be OK as other features work.

I’ve scoured the posts for this but found nothing. Thanks for any help.

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Posted on: February 05, 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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Re: Multi-part editor won’t receive some voices

When I do a bulk receive for the multi it gets all of the voices correctly except one voice (a guitar) that is used on three channels.

Do you mean one Voice is set to receive on three different MIDI channels. Or do you mean one Voice is set to three different PARTS. Or do you mean one Voice is on three PARTS all set to the same MIDI channel… or…

what do you mean?

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Posted on: February 05, 2009 @ 09:53 AM
DrDel
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Re: Multi-part editor won’t receive some voices

Thanks for responding! I’m sorry for my lack of clarity. My Yamaheezi needs some work.

A song has 16 tracks (parts?) and each gets a voice assigned. My song has the same voice assigned to tracks 7-9 but there is different midi data in each track. The voice is a guitar - Gt:SteelCmprs to be exact.

I am trying to get to know Multi-Part Editor, which I have used a little in the past but am really getting into tweaking effects and such and so it seems like a better interface to do that than using the ES’s internal menus, although I am familiar enough with those. So I go into Multi-Part Edifor (USB) and do a “Receive Multi Bulk”. It brings in the right voice settings for all of the other voices except those three tracks with the guitar - which show as the default piano instead of as the guitar voice. Immediately after doing this, the voices in the three tracks in the ES are now reset to the default piano as well.

I hope that’s clearer. Thanks again for your help and patience!

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Posted on: February 05, 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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Re: Multi-part editor won’t receive some voices

Yes, that helps. Here is what I think is going on and some clarification on Yamaha-speak.

The sequencer has Tracks… Tracks transmit on different MIDI Channels to the tone generator (MIXING) which has Parts. Each PART is initially assigned a MIDI channel; PARTS 1-16 are assigned to MIDI channels 1-16, which receive data from Tracks 1-16.

Nice and neat.

Okay. The Multi-Part Editor must be made aware of the USER Voice library in your ES -particularly if you are using an USER VOICES.  So when you edited the Guitar Voice in the Motif ES you must STORE them to USER locations. If you did then you must ensure that the Multi-Part Editor receives that USER library.

(It is not clear from your post exactly what method you used to Edit these Voices… but the following is my best guess)…

What you want to do is make sure you update the MULTI-PART Editor as to what Voice Library is currently loaded in your ES> Here’s how:

Click SETUP on the Multi-Part Editor’s menu bar
Select “Receive VOICE Bulk”
Set the “Receive Type” = Normal User 1 + Normal User 2 + User Drums
What this does is grab all the USER Voices in the Motif ES and brings them into the Multi-Part Editor. 

My guess is you edited the Voice “Gt:SteelCmprs” and you stored it to a USER location, the contents of that USER Voice location is still unknown to the Multi-Part Editor… by doing a RECEIVE VOICE BULK, the current USER Voice library will be imported into the Multi-Part Editor. And now it will be able to recall the proper Voice data.

Now do the SETUP > RECEIVE MULTI BULK
The USER Voices locations will now be correct in your MULTI.

Hope that helps. Let us know.

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