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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 07:56 AM
Rosy
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Hi guys - first post and already stumped!

All I want to do is load 64 midi songs from a memory card into each of the Motif 6’s 64 song spaces.

If possible I would like it to do this everytime it is switched on.

Sorry but the manuals mush!

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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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Re: At wit’s end!

The manual is OK, rather better than average.

After you loaded those 64 songs, do an ALL save to the filename AUTOLOAD.

Read page 264 of the manual.

;JOOP!

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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 09:10 PM
Rosy
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Re: At wit’s end!

Thanks for the response.

I previously fiddled with this page in the manual and now with your encouragement I have managed to autoload 9 songs. 

Now get a ‘seq memory’ full message - since my 480kb is taken up with 9 x 50kb sequences.

How can I bring more songs on board?
Can the memory by extended?
Can I make the files smaller somehow?
How can I use the smart card to Autoload more songs?
Why would there be space for 64 songs if 9 was as many as could be loaded?

I have really studied the manual but this is all a mystery!

Thanks for any assistance available!!

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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 09:13 PM
Rosy
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Re: At wit’s end!

Sorry - 448kb!

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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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Re: At wit’s end!

You can’t extend the memory for songs, however as I regularly put
some 30 songs in,
I fear that your songs have too many data.
You can inspect a song per track by the EDIT button, or the MIDI file
in Cubase in LIST-EDITOR.
I expect that you will see tons of control messages.
Using a volume control, pitch control or any other gradually control
causes showers of control messages.
I wonder if you really need them all.

There is some tutorial on MIDI in this forum.

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Posted on: January 30, 2009 @ 11:30 PM
Rosy
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Re: At wit’s end!

I will take a look a thinning out some songs but an average of 50kb for a song with say 10 parts seems avarage? How many parts do you use and what is your average file size?

Once the memory is full, is it possible to delete songs without overwrting them (which can’t be done because the memory is full!). What I am thinking is to load them in groups of 8 at a time. I know that I can switch off and on again but that must be a bad idea during a performance!

Thanks once again!

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Posted on: January 31, 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Re: At wit’s end!

When in Song mode, press the JOB button:

lots of actions per-song, per-track, per-measure, per-note, per-event ...

;JOOP

P.S.: I posted 2 songs of 7 tracks and 4-5 minutes in Mo’Radio.
Each was +-8Kb when saved as Midi.

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Posted on: February 01, 2009 @ 07:03 AM
Rosy
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Re: At wit’s end!

I undertand that you can take out data from the midi tracks but don’t you loose effects like aftertouch, pitchbend, modulation etc which add to the quality of the track?

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Posted on: February 01, 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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Re: At wit’s end!

If you really need them you ‘pay’ for it.
But first have a look at those command codes.

;JOOP!

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Posted on: February 01, 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Re: At wit’s end!

Pitchbend and Modulation are usually controller information which is added deliberately. Aftertouch however is a continuous controller which most of the time is added accidentally or maybe that should be incidentally - anyways, most of the time it adds copious amounts of continuous controller data without the voice actually responding to it. So aftertouch is your most likely candidate for deletion after checking if it is doing something musically useful. For instance on some fretless bass sounds it is programmed to do something. Most voices are not!! Removing this data can usually free up huge amounts of memory - you often get a dozen or more AT events to a single note!!

Let us know how it goes /forums/images/icons/smile.gif alt=

Cheers

OOh, and a PS here - I set Cubase to filter out AT data - I only record AT data now if I need it. I’m sure you can do something similar in Motif

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