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Posted on: January 26, 2009 @ 01:59 PM
Hugo
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During the recent war between Israel and Hamas, violent demonstrations broke out all over Europe. And everywhere the picture was the same; Islamised young Muslims in cooperation with left-wing extremists. The latter idiots are seeing radical Islam as a fine partner against those unfair American capitalist bastards, while the former idiots are copying their fellow believers in Palestine; throwing rocks and Molotov coctails against whoever might be in the area. The small detail that European police officers - and civilians - are not identical to Israeli military personell, is of course unimportant - for both Islamists and native extremists.

In the following video, Britisk police officers are chased through the streets by an angry mob shouting: “Run you fu*kin’ cowards! Run you kuffar!”
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp-lwSe2llg [/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5l3_iwFXg&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5l3_iwFXg&feature=related [/url]

The following from a pro-Hamas demonstration In Belgium. After the demo, Muslim activists marched against the Jewish quarter, but were dispersed by the police in the last minute. So they released their anger by destroying cars and buildings instead of the Jews:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isJBj7E3iuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isJBj7E3iuw [/url]
[url=http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/12/antwerp-arab-riots-jewish-neighborhood.html]http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2008/12/antwerp-arab-riots-jewish-neighborhood.html [/url]

Speaking of destroying cars: in the ongoing intifada in France, ‘only’ 1147 cars were destroyed this New Years Eve.
[url=http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3723]http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3723 [/url]

Oh, yeah, a synagogue was recently attacked with Molotov cocktails, btw.
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7813265.stm]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7813265.stm [/url]

And here we can see young Muslims in Malmo, Sweden, demonstrating with their like-minded leftist activists, while shouting “Allahu Akbar!” and “Hitler is great!”
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8NWA7Cszk&eurl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo8NWA7Cszk&eurl [/url]

(btw: ethnic Swedes will be a minority in Malmo within 10 years. Malmo is one of Swedens biggest cities. Swedes will be a minority in the whole of Sweden within 2056 according to calculations made by social anthropologist Jonathan Friedman and his team).

In Denmark, the Islamist organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir (banned in Germany) are doing their best to stir up hatred towards the native population. This from a recent demonstration:"Down with the USA, down with Israel, down with Denmark, down with democracy”
“we want to kill all the Jews, all they Jews should be slain, they have no right to exist!” (notice the nazi heil, btw):
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUzAk1nXy4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeUzAk1nXy4 [/url]

While all this is happening, Dutch politician Geert Wilders has to stand trial accused of incitement to hatred with his film “Fitna”. And in Norway, the government recently suggested blasphemy be made a criminal offence - in other words just as the OIC has suggested in the UN.

These are the last days of Europe.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 12:31 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

These are the last days of Europe.

While you offer an amount of ‘evidence’, Hugo, you fail to mention that these are very vocal minorities who don’t stand a chance of overthrowing democracy and replacing it with theocratic dictatorship (which I assume is your conclusion - correct me if I’m wrong).

So, how do you propose ‘saving’ Europe? Mass expulsions? I know the National Front was always fond of ‘repatriation’ until it realized that lots of non-whites were born in the UK. So, whither are the European-born extremists to be shipped? Or do you have other ideas? You post a great amount of material but you don’t comment on how the perceived problem is to be solved.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 01:16 AM
botega
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

You post a great amount of material but you don’t comment on how the perceived problem is to be solved.

That’s because no one can solve this problem, it’s a matter of
demography.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 03:18 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

it’s a matter of
demography.

I think that’s a rather fatuous reply that hides a variety of pernicious assumptions, one of which seems to be that if you have a number of non-Europeans in European space you will inevitably find a breakdown of ‘European order’, however you wish to define that. The Jews in Europe are a fine example of how such an assumption is a nonsense: the Jews sometimes put themselves into ghettos and cut themselves off from the locals and sometimes assimilated and/or converted, becoming indistinguishable from any other Europeans. The same can be said of any ‘foreign’ ethnic group, including Moslems. I know both assimilated and religious Moslems, as, I expect, a wealth of other posters do, too. There is nothing inevitable about one’s background, creed or beliefs that imply a particular fixed set of behaviours. Racism is the opposite of that statement.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 06:44 AM
billrock
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

Typical muslims trying to act like they own wherever they infest. Similar to Bush and Blair acting like they own Iraq. I don’t support religious extremism on either sides of the aisle.

Hamletsmachine, stop it already. Either you are a bleeding heart liberal or a Pakistani muslim terrorist sympathizer.

These muzzies don’t do this in America because they know they will get their asses whooped by good ole rednecks.

I am not a fan of rednecks, but I must admit they keep our country safe from Islamic infestation.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 06:55 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

Grow up, Billrock. Either make some sensible arguments or keep quiet. Throwing round childish remarks gets us nowhere.

‘Typical muslims’? This is just more racist stereotyping. Remember when the Nazis did that with ‘typical Jews’? Remember where that led? This is genocidal thinking.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 06:57 AM
billrock
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

Soon Dynaudio will be replaced with Dhimminator (killing dhimmis) and Genelec (Finland) will be replaced with Genocide.

Religious extremism should be wiped off the face of the planet...anyone who shouts ‘Allahu Gaybar followed by Kill the Kuffar’ should be charged with commiting a hate crime.

I have to agree with Hugo - this cancer should be wiped out.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 07:12 AM
billrock
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

Ok, you want a sensible argument?

“While you offer an amount of ‘evidence’, Hugo, you fail to mention that these are very vocal minorities who don’t stand a chance of overthrowing democracy and replacing it with theocratic dictatorship (which I assume is your conclusion - correct me if I’m wrong).”

Vocal Minorities? There are 100’s if not thousands of them. Have you heard of procreation? The only goal of many traditional muslim men (their expectation of their women) is to procreate and brainwash all kids into fanatics until Islam becomes the world’s fastest growing religion. Oh, wait a minute, it already is.

“So, how do you propose ‘saving’ Europe? Mass expulsions? I know the National Front was always fond of ‘repatriation’ until it realized that lots of non-whites were born in the UK. So, whither are the European-born extremists to be shipped? Or do you have other ideas? You post a great amount of material but you don’t comment on how the perceived problem is to be solved.”

Repatriation, especially of non-muslims, is a stupid idea. There are many secularized muslims and non-muslims of non-European origin who sometimes contribute more towards western technology than the natives. A better idea would be to forfeit citizenship of terrorists (of any religion, even if most happen to be muslims). As UK once did to a radical cleric. Send the convicts (not suspects) to camps like Guantanamo Bay and torture them like there’s no tomorrow. In this way, you won’t be guilty of being ‘racist’ towards the ‘innocent’ muslims (who don’t commit illegal acts but sympathize with terrorists).

I have met many muslims - they won’t take ANY criticism of their religion and when push comes to shove, they will ALWAYS UNITE against kuffars.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 08:15 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

A better idea would be to forfeit citizenship of terrorists (of any religion, even if most happen to be muslims).

Here you’re just talking about criminals, not your racialized ‘cancer’ or ‘infestation’. I doubt anyone would disagree with harsh punishment for terrorists.

Send the convicts (not suspects) to camps like Guantanamo Bay and torture them like there’s no tomorrow.

So, this is how we preserve Western values? You’re as bad as the terrorists if you believe that barbarism is the answer.

In this way, you won’t be guilty of being ‘racist’ towards the ‘innocent’ muslims (who don’t commit illegal acts but sympathize with terrorists).

I was under the impression that the West believed in free speech, which includes people who sympathize with terrorists but don’t commit crimes (and aiding and abetting terrorists is a crime, in the UK at least). I’m all for the radical Right, for example, having the right to air their repugnant views as it’s the job of a democracy to challenge counter-systems and to argue that it’s right.

So, you’ve only spoken about terrorists while your ealier posts were about all muslems. As I said, I want a sensible argument.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 09:04 AM
botega
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

The Jews in Europe are a fine example of how such an assumption is a nonsense: the Jews sometimes put themselves into ghettos and cut themselves off from the locals and sometimes assimilated and/or converted, becoming indistinguishable from any other Europeans.

Remember when the Nazis did that with ‘typical Jews’? Remember where that led?

the question is: did the Jews EVER made violent provocations against the German people or against any other European nation in the past and present ? was it just because their exceptional\repulsive religious look that made\makes people hate them? or is it because of the fact that they where\are economically and educationally successful?

Jews hatred is an outdated phenomenon, this hatred is thousands of years old, hey - didn’t we killed Jesus??
of course we did…

i live in a place where Muslims and Jews are living together
i play music with Muslims, i studied with Muslims in Tel Aviv University, i eat in Arab resturants - and i love the food btw
i have Israeli - Arab - Muslim friends and i absolutely don’t think that ALL muslims are a dangerous nor ALL of them are a problem or a threat BUT:

the radical Muslim movements are cynically using their own people to get their goal which is only one:
forcing a violent Jihad against the western world which stands
as opposed to their perception.

i’m sure my English is lame but i hope you got the ideas.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 09:12 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

I don’t quite follow all your points, Toscanini, but I agree with you on the following:

radical Muslim movements are cynically using their own people to get their goal

This position, however, is a long way from your ‘demographic’ comment, above.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 09:31 AM
botega
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

Hamlet wake up:

for any Christian family with barely two kids there is a Muslim family with 10 - 12 kids, if you’ll make a fast calculation you will find out where you are going.

don’t play naive

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 09:34 AM
hamletmaschine
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

So, on that ‘calculation’ all non-muslems might as well kill themselves, as they’re all going to be overrun. That is your logic, isn’t it?

Don’t play simplistic.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 09:57 AM
botega
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

that is not my logic that’s math.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

for any Christian family with barely two kids there is a Muslim family with 10 - 12 kids, if you’ll make a fast calculation you will find out where you are going.

you continually insist on hating muslims, OK WE GET IT! we heard you the first 200 times…

Your arguements are unusable. You need a new angle. Religious demographic is meaningless in a free thinking debate.

That goes for all of you.

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Posted on: January 27, 2009 @ 10:16 AM
botega
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Re: The last days of Europe: British police on the

you continually insist on hating muslims,

no i don’t! i hate haters from both sides, that’s me.

but what is your angle Gutwrench?

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