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Posted on: January 16, 2009 @ 03:13 AM
Astral
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Um… ok- I didn’t get it. So it was for...?

I love evrything Peter ever programed, I did find some very useful short sounds and some chords, and I did not get a chance to hear all 3 banks, but have few questions:

1st of- what is .XOG file? I understand XOA or XOV, but XOG? And in manual I did not find any references to it.

2nd- it says 40 user arps. Is in incluading the drum slises bank or just for synth sounds? I was checking arps for every sound I got to plkay with and all it was is same Up/Down/Rundom arps- is there any phrases?

3rd- If I don’t use Logic for Mac but do use Logic 5 Plat for PC- will it work in it? Is there any was to play any of Step Sequencers in Sonar? Is there SMF files that I can load in just any DAW?

4th- the drums sound um… like it has no kick to it- feels like it needs to be put on a top of some kind of other drum kit. Is there a way to use those arps to make lets say Motif Standard Kit to behave as those loops? I understand about ability to change tempo, but how about ability to change Drum Sound/kit?

It was blowing my mind to read about all the formats and options of the same thing Peter converted it to- sounds like he did a lot of work for this release. But if you are not Mac Logic or Cubase user- guess what- big part of it simply does not apply to you, or am I just missing the ways to use it?

Thank you.

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Posted on: January 16, 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

1st of- what is .XOG file? I understand XOA or XOV, but XOG? And in manual I did not find any references to it.

This is an All Arpeggio file - when saved it contains all of the user arpeggios (up to 256) present in the Motif XS. You can load this file to guarantee that any user arpeggios that are needed when loading individual voices from an associated voice library are present when you load the voices individually (rather than loading them using a data Type of ALL - which loads all of the voices, user arpeggios, performances, etc.)

Brad

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Posted on: January 16, 2009 @ 06:08 AM
Astral
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

Oh, ok- thanks. So I would think XOA would cover it all, right?

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Posted on: January 16, 2009 @ 06:16 AM
Peter Krischker
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

Hi Astral,

The .X0G-file (as Brad informed an arpeggio file) is normally not needed - as Brad said- because the arps are included in the all-file.
Only if you load single voices it might be helpful to load the X0G-file separately, if the arps are needed for the voice.

The User Arpeggios 1 25 (Category DrPc) are including sequences for controlling the Sliced Drum Kits (USER 2). 
The User Arpeggios 25 48 (Category Seq) are including synth-arpeggios. 
(see manual, page 21).

If you use Logic 5 you can use the SMF instead of the user arpeggios for controlling the slice drumkits or synth voices.
Additional you can import WAV-files to all versions of Logic.

You cannot use the slice drumkits like normal drumkits, because they are slices drumloops. But you can re-arrange them using other arp types or re-arranging the MIDI-data in the SMF.
This works also with Logic 5.

Peter

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Posted on: January 16, 2009 @ 06:17 AM
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

... correct

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Posted on: January 19, 2009 @ 06:23 AM
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

Peter, thank you for your reply.

I don’t use Logic 5 any more. I play older songs with it and can use it if I have to. But prefere Sonar. Peter, is there anything we can do to turn you in to Sonar? Its awesome.

So you saying- the arps will not work for Yamaha internal drum kits like Standard, etc? Yeah, I see how it can be all the different thing. What would make me happier is if you had those beats copmpatable with regular keyboard based sounds. I don’t know where to even begin to use slised loops, other than record them straight as Audio. You saying- open SMF? Where is SMF- is it in the folder I will unzipe? I have to play with it more- I only had few hours with it.

Peter, the B3 sound set you worked on with Dave- does it contain any “trancy” sounds? I almost ordered it- already had it in a shopping cart, but then took it off, because- there a lot of organ sounds in Motif. I am working with very strong keyboardist who is more in to progressive rock and such, so I thought he would like it, but I was wondering if it has those trance- adopted dreamy organ sound- it just that you have a reputation of making great electronica material- I was hoping…

Thank you, Peter and everybody who answered.

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Posted on: February 01, 2009 @ 07:02 PM
Peter Krischker
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Re: Hypnotic Stepz

Hi Astral,

sorry for my late reply. I were absent for 2 weeks.

the SMF are simply in the folder “SMF”. It should be no problem to import them also to Sonar as Standard MIDI Files. Please try.

Making beats for existing drumkits is a totally different thing as making sliced drumloops.
The sound is very different from the MOTIF drumkit sound.
It is very nice to combine the loops with step sequences / synth arpeggios.
And you can use different arp types which changes the character of the loops.
You can use filter, amp or pitch envelopes which work for each slice.
You can use different insert effects.
There are many ways for creative using of sliced loops.

Although you find some dreamy chill out type organ sounds in “Organ Session” most voices are related to Rock, Pop, Funk & Jazz.
The emphasis of this product is not related to electronica. If you check the demos you will confirm.

Peter

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