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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Hello, I’m new to the Motif, but have plenty of audio background and would appreciate any and all help on a few areas that I haven’t been able to find in the book- I hope this is the right forum and look forward to your input!
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Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Legend |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
We are not entirely sure we understand exactly what it is you want to do from this description but perhaps this will help.
Again we are not clear as to what “other devices” means but if you are using USB to connect your XS7 to your computer, then you will be happy to know that Cubase will see anything connected to the 5-pin MIDI IN jack on the back of the Motif XS7 as Port 3 ("Motif XS MIDI IN") and you will be able to echo back data from Cubase to any “other device” connected to the 5-pin MIDI OUT jack on Port 3 ("Motif XS MIDI OUT").
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Wow Bad Mister- Great details and about the fastest response I’ve ever had on a forum! Big big thanks
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Wow- the performance into a patern works well, except I dont see how to trigger differnt arp patterns- The one pattern I jobbed over works freat, but I was building differnt arpegios for differnt sections of the songs and assigning them to the arp buttons in the performance so I can change up groove at random- Any way to do this in a pattern? Maybe this is what scenes are for?
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Bad_Mister
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Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Er, no, not what I said. You would go to a blank SONG or PATTERN and you would COPY the PERFORMANCE setup to it. A Performance is a selection of instruments with arpeggios… It is like a rhythm section or a band of players. The SONG or PATTERN is like the multi-track recorder setup (your studio)… You bring the musicians to the studio.
It is far easier to record the arpeggios to the Motif XS sequencer - it is designed to do so. And it is highly recommended that this is how you proceed. Recording Performance mode with multiple arpeggios to an external sequencer cannot be appreciated until you really see what is going on… Direct Performance Record is very complex and is a new innovation found only in the Motif XS.
Exactly, my point. Until you fully understand exactly what is happening things like this will plague your attempts.
If you are recording from PERFORMANCE mode then the [SF1] through [SF5] buttons are labeled with the different arps… this is the best way to record from a PERFORMANCE to the sequencer.
Not possible. If you are using Direct Performance Record, you can target a different Section A-P for each recording… but quite naturally you must use the same Performance (you can’t call a new band for Bridge...) in other words the Performance is your musicians - they must stay consistent throughout the composition. Do not, repeat DO NOT attempt to record a PERFORMANCE after you have transferred it to a MIXING setup…
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Thanks Bad Mister- Sounds like I’m trying to score for oboe and claranet before I know my scales and I need to go back and get he fundamentals right-
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
I hate to keep failing with this synth, but I cant make the most basic aspect work and want to double check if I am doing something wrong- In summary, I need to be able to use the arpeggios from a performance live (with no sequencing) and seemlessly move into a sequence and back again. Here’s where I am-
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Bad_Mister
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Joined 07-30-2002 status: Legend |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
I’m sure you are missing this fundamental point. And until you get this point you will not have success.
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
OK, I’ve got something working- Not perfect and uses up 5 tracks, but here is what I did-
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Bad_Mister
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Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
As we said in the very first response: We are not entirely sure what is you really want to accomplish.
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Thanks for sticking with me Bad Mister- Much of the confusion comes from the fact that I am using the motif in studio and live and the needs are rather diverse and I’ve asked questions about different scenerios and I think they are merging together. Let’s go back to square one regarding the perfromance in tandem with pattern challange that I was trying to resolve in recent posts.
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Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Legend |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
I’d have to really think about it… but it reminds of solution DJ’s came up with when they wanted to seamlessly transition between two records… they bought a second turntable.
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zionstrat
Total Posts: 11
Joined 12-10-2008 status: Regular |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Wow bad mister, that’s bad really news if I am understanding you correctly- It’s the second most important reason I bought a Motif (after sound quality)- But I dont see how a second Motif would help me out because the biggest problem I am running into is synch, not the number of arepiggiators.
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Bad_Mister
Total Posts: 36620
Joined 07-30-2002 status: Legend |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Neither can we. There is only one clock so they have no choice. You don’t really give us any concrete specific information with which to help you. You have to realize that the arpeggios will start when you press a key. So there is a certain amount of skill involved - particularly if you are attempting to come in ON the BEAT. Unlike an arranger keyboard where no matter where in the beat you touch the key, the “style” falls into the beat, the arpeggios of the XS are very much real time.
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Synthgeek
Total Posts: 668
Joined 11-18-2003 status: Guru |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
Not sure if I can help as I too am not clear on exactly the problem. If you are using the sequencer and want to switch between playing the same parts live and letting the sequencer play it seems this can be done. You will have to record the sequence data ahead of time in pattern mode. If you did not know , the patterns have 16 sections from A-P. You can trigger these section changes live and the changes can be quantized to a beat or to change at the end of the current measure. You can set this up by pressing Seq Setup on the top panel and pressing F4 for other. Now change the quantize value to 1(measure). If you are trying to trigger a separate pattern then it will not lock to tempo.
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Goodi
Total Posts: 97
Joined 08-19-2007 status: Experienced |
Re: newbie needs XS7 midi and sequence help
All I want is to connect my Motif XS 8 to my computer so I can use it in cubase /forums/images/icons/frown.gif alt=
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