I wanted to record one track at a time into logic. Using the Sounds from the Mo. I have a Focusrite Saffire LE Interface connected to the Mac with the Midi cords going thru the Interface.
What i want to do is when I press play on Logic it will play the Mo and Record each track into the MAC so it can be sync’d up together.


Can anyone understand what i want to do.

I did it thru the midi cables using the Mo as a Controler to play the sounds in Logic but i want to do the reverse of that and record the sounds from the MO6.


HELP i’ve spent about a week trying to figure this out.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Well today is the last day you will have to wonder how to do
this. I have a couple of videos on setting up logic to do this.
It is for all 16 tracks.Since you only want to do
one track at a time, you dont really even
need these videos. Let me see if I can just walk you through it.
Let me get this straight. You are playing
the tracks back from the Motif, is the Midi info in the Motif or in Logic?
This in important so I dont confuse you any more.

I will give you both scenarios just in case.

If the midi data is in the Motif.

Bring up the song on the Motif.
Note which track it is you want to record. With the song loaded
go into the utility menu>midi>sync. Turn the clock out to OFF.
Sequencer control
to OFF. And Midi Sync to MIDI. In the
OTHER area. Make sure Midi
in and out is set to MIDI. Then hit SEQ and in this area choose Click making sure it is
set to OFF. (or it will be recorded with your music) In the QUICKSET area choose
RECORDING ON COMPUTER . Store your settings. I am going to asume you
have the audio out from the Motif to the ins on the Saffire and your
levels are set correctly.
In Logic go into the Song setting>syncronozation
make sure in that Clock is set to internal.
In the midi window of the sync settings set the first destination to the Saffire

Then on the audio track in Logic select the input for your Saffire.
Now when you hit record you should get Logic trigering your Motif
and the Motif sending the audio to Logic which it should record in
sync with anything else going on.

The only difference if Logic has the Midi info is to create a new MIDI
instrument in the Midi layer of the Environment. Just go to the
Environment, select the midi layer from the pull down menu on the left
side. When you are there, go to the new menu, select
New> Midi Instrument.  Then click
on the name in the paramerters box.
Name it after your keyboard. Then where it says midi port
click and drag so it shows the Saffire. Then where it says the Midi Channel
click and drag to the number of
the Track you are using on the MOTIF, so if you are using track 13 choose Midi channel 13.
Now when you create a track in the Arrange window in the pull down
menu there will be MIDI>Midi instrument>Motif.
This is the track you want
to put the Midi data on. Make sure the
port and channel are correct in
the Parameters box on the left and you are set to go.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

wow - i have a m08 with logic and I’ve been trying like you to do the same thing.

I’ll try the advice as suggested........let me know how it works out for you.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

tried what you suggested and i get no sound....i’m sure i’m not doing something right. In the transport menu under midi activity (in) i see notes being played but i hear nothing......

I have an emagic emi6/2m audio interface running through Mac G4; using logic express 6

please help....

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Ok to make sure we are on the same page
why dont you tell me exactly what you are
trying to do. It seems by your reply that you
are playing the MO yourself, since you said
that you can see Midi coming in.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

yes, i’m pressing the keys of the MO but don’t hear anything. I see the signal coming through to logic but no sound......

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Are you trying to record the audio of the MO to an
audio track?

OR

Are you trying to play one of Logics software instruments
and record midi for that instrument to play?

Sorry to have to be so slow with your request.
I have to ask this because these are both very
different situations but by your post it could be either one.

ie. ‘Pressing keys on the MO and do not hear anything”:
This could pertain to trying to get the MOs audio on a audio track.

and

“I see signal coming in (midi in) and dont hear anything.
This could pertain to a software instrument as they use
a midi signal to trigger their sound.

Midi and audio are two very different animals.
Getting the terms for these two formats correct
(and keeping them separate) is fairly important
since they are treated completely different in terms of real world
applications. Just as a refresher for anyone who might be new
to recording.

MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) is a computer language.
It is not sound. It is commands and velocities, note on, note off.
It can be likened to a piece of sheet music. It tells a musician
(the midi instrument) how to play a piece of music.

Audio is the actual sound wave. The final product.


So once again, I am sorry to have to be so picky. I just do not
want to go over a subject and find out that is not what you wanted
to do anyway. 

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

my apologies;

I have several songs that I’ve saved to an external hard drive I have connected to MO.
I load those songs up and play on MO, no problem.
I’d like to get these songs recorded in Logic - each track on it’s own separate audio track in Logic.

In past I’ve pressed play on MO and record in logic and recorded all tracks together on one logic track.

Gotta be an easier way.

Should I bring them in on a logic audio track...or should I bring them in on logic Midi track?

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

“In past I’ve pressed play on MO and record in logic and recorded
all tracks together on one logic track.

Gotta be an easier way.”


Well, there is. You have your butler push the two buttons. Sorry I
couldn’t resist. That is pretty easy though. I am just going to make
it harder because there will now be more that can go wrong. Once
you get used to checking the different settings a few dozen times
it will become instinct. When there is a problem you will
“know” where to look.

The coolest thing about this is that your keyboard will be “In Sync”
with logic. Though this may not sound like much, once you
start playing with the arpeggios you will be glad you did it.
First let me say that the main benefit of doing this is once it is
done you DON’T have to do it again.


First thing is your going to want to bring in your song(s) as a
midi file. If you can save them as SMF files or Standard Midi Files
then they should import easily. If they do not have the mid
extension, you can just add it on yourself before trying to import
them. Go to the FILE menu in Logic select IMPORT and
locate the song you want to work with. Logic will put the tracks
on Audio Inst tracks. This is great if you want Logics internal software
instruments to play the midi data. For the Motif to play them you will need some
dedicated tracks to send the Midi out to the Motif.

That is where my videos come in.

I will not go into that because the videos explain it pretty well.

I am also posting a text document on setting up the keyboard
and the settings in Logic.
The address for the videos is in the text document.

You should have all the info you need. Hopefully!

Just one thing, you said you want to record the audio of each
midi track on a separate audio track. This is hard to do all at once
unless you have a keyboard with 16 separate outputs and an
interface with 16 separate inputs. You can still do it but only one
at a time. So to do it just solo the track on the Motif that you want
to record and only that sound will be recorded onto that audio
track. Then go on to the next audio track and Motif track.

So about nowI would bet your wishing you had stuck with

pressing the two buttons!

Try to not get frustrated, this is really complex stuff. Just post again
if you need some more help.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

thanks i’ll try it out.......

i tried to run your videos.....took me to easyshare.com.....when i select the file nothing happens......do i need to download supporting software of some kind?

I’m using a Dell inspiron 6400 laptop

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

No supporting software is needed. You just need to save
the file to your hard drive. They are quicktime files
so you will need quicktime7 to view them. I am not familiar
with windows and how to save a downloaded file.
Is it a right click kind of thing?

If you cant get them to download, you can still watch them
here.....


[url=http://proapptips.com/tips/article.php?story=20061002043938339]http://proapptips.com/tips/article.php?story=20061002043938339 [/url]


I apologize for the sound of the ones on Proapptips. I think
he compressed them so it sounds like I am in a tunnel.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

awesome videos - they helped tremendously - changed my whole approach......

thanks again.

Please send me more videos if you have them.....

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Glad you were able to find them useful. I do not have any other
videos as this time though I am working on putting together
a DVD of tutorials for Logic. I will post here when it is available.

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Good post. I will be coming back to this soon as I am about to switch to Logic 8!

Would the same thing work for the new version 8?

Re: Controling the Mo6 Thur LOGIC?

Well this is a very good question but since I have not installed my
copy yet I am just guessing. I am going to say that I do know that
Logic has had a major upgrade this time so I know what we want to
do is going to work it is just the “how” that is the question. It will take me
at least a week before I can get to this since I am setting up a new
computer at the same time.

One thing I would like to address is that after talking with a friend who
is a certified Logic trainer I did find out that my videos have one glaring
mistake in them.  If you want to set up a keyboard with Logic all you
need is a Multi Instrument object. You DO NOT need to cable it to a
Inst Channel Strip like I did in the video.  I mistakenly thought this was
needed and it is not. The “master track” only works with INTERNAL
virtual instruments. I hope this helps anyone who has been doing it
this way. My apologies.